Good man I think every beginners biggest regret will be not having before pictures to compare your results to, I know I regret it anyway
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Why has this not been pinned. It should be at the top of the forum as one of the most legitimate proofs of PEs success. I have not seen anyone that had gains as prominent as this member (with proof). WTF, gentlemen.
This guy is the benchmark for PE tracking and progress logs. We need more photo yearly/monthly comparisons in order to convince the world that PE works without it you have nothing but, a few notes about measurements
Let the world figure it out for themselves. Why do you guys want to make this place even more crowded than it is?
Are you serious right now? It is kind of a bummer to read that specially from an admin. Having pictures and a detailed log to help prove how effective PE can only be a good thing.
It helps to improve the amount of data we have available to choose and apply the best and most effective kinds of exercises. It brings awareness to people, helping others prevent and treat injuries. It even makes sites like this more popular which in turn can make people money by selling more and better products and with ads money.
If you think this forum is crowded there are a lot of ways adminstrators can limit this without restricting read access. I am sorry but what you said sounded a lot like someone who doesn't want attention to their scam.
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First of all, there is no scam here, and the Staff (Admins and Mods) are doing a great job keeping this place running well!
Some members choose to upload their photo album, others don't, feel free to do so yourself if you want to.
Gains are yours to make and keep, no one asks for anything in return, also you need to follow exercise and safety instructions carefully to gain in the first place, no amount of proof will work unless you try, and no amount of denial will prevent anyone form gaining, if they follow correct procedure.
Take a closer look around, you will find progress logs, and success stories all over the place, but you need to try for yourself to gain.
Keep a positive attitude, and PE for size, health and EQ, skepticism is not entirely a bad thing, just don't let it blind you, or falsely accuse someone without proof.
All members here donate their time, expertise and efforts to keep a positive and healthy environment for all to share for free, join the fun, and take part.
First of all, there is no scam here, and the Staff (Admins and Mods) are doing a great job keeping this place running well!
Some members choose to upload their photo album, others don't, feel free to do so yourself if you want to.
Gains are yours to make and keep, no one asks for anything in return, also you need to follow exercise and safety instructions carefully to gain in the first place, no amount of proof will work unless you try, and no amount of denial will prevent anyone form gaining, if they follow correct procedure.
Take a closer look around, you will find progress logs, and success stories all over the place, but you need to try for yourself to gain.
Keep a positive attitude, and PE for size, health and EQ, skepticism is not entirely a bad thing, just don't let it blind you, or falsely accuse someone without proof.
All members here donate their time, expertise and efforts to keep a positive and healthy environment for all to share for free, join the fun, and take part.
I never said there is any scam going on here or that the admins responsible are doing a bad job. If can read again what I posted and see that for yourself.
What I am saying though is that it is really disapointing to see an admin dismiss a detailed report like that, as something bad. You are barking to the wrong tree here. Skeptiscism is not a bad thing because it is the main tool alongside curiosity to drive progress forward.
If ask doctors and researchers today about PE they would most likely warn you about the dangers of it and how it does not work at all. That does NOT mean what goes on here is wrong, it means the body of evidence is anecdotal at best.
Thinking back how much sports science has gained (specially in performance) in the few years real research was put into it makes me think these kinds of logs are exactly what we need to sparkle interest, and not bury it down like it was implied.
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Having so many members here, means that PE works! :becky:
Try it out for yourself and see the results, rulers don't lie. :biggrin1:
As for doctors, there is no scientific research done on PE, as it will not return money on their investment, and the only cases urologists see are those who injure themselves, even if a doctor believes in PE, he/she can't say that to patients for fear of loosing their license.
Sex toy, sex products and supplement industries are a huge multi-billion dollar industry. When talking in particular about supplement industry we have to keep in mind that you can sell pretty much anything without having to prove its effectiveness. It`s the FDA's job to "shut you down" if your allegations are false or your product is harmful (as we have seen with Xenadrine, Jack3d and other products).
Why am I bringing this up? Because of what you said about return on their investment. Imagine for a second you were a urologist that held a huge clinical trial about PE and proved with solid science not only that it works, but that you made a device to optimize it that was safe and cheap. Not only that but you would have your own brand of supplements, male enhancers to further your gains like you have never seen. That sh*t would sell so fast the chinese wouldn't be able to keep up with your manufacturing orders.
Sounds far-fetched? That is pretty much what happens in real life, specially when a pharmaceutical or food company wants to introduce new sh*t on the market. There are a few people already exploring the PE market but its still a very niche thing. The good part about what I just said is that when something "explodes" like that the amount of peer-reviewing helps to tone down the frenzy.
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rammln very inspiring thread and picks, did u gained anything after 2010 december?? on that day u was almost 20 cm erect, whats your size now ??
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Been doing the beginners routine for a month now and haven't seen any gains that I could class as permanent. Some days I seem to measure slightly longer (maybe a couple of mm), but then a week later I am back to starting length. Must depend on how far I am pressing into my pelvic bone.
Must admit I was starting to think about giving up. Seeing this post has motivated me to keep going and commit to atleast 3 more months to see if I can achieve any real gains
Must admit I was starting to think about giving up. Seeing this post has motivated me to keep going and commit to atleast 3 more months to see if I can achieve any real gains
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why did he stop? just look at the size of that thing...Most people dream of having his starting stats, probably less than 5% of men do.
I have to admit that this comparison was inspiring!
My starting stats were below his, but pretty close, especially in length. Now I know that I can really increase my size, I'll definitely keep exercising!
Though I'm not really a very consistent person
My starting stats were below his, but pretty close, especially in length. Now I know that I can really increase my size, I'll definitely keep exercising!
Though I'm not really a very consistent person
