phallosan vs penimaster pro

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Hi fellaz i have been in holiday quite a while just came back and saw that phallosan forte has its own thread here,well im still not sure because a lot say specially on M*****s of S*ze that the Phallosan forte doesnt have enough traction and compared too the penimaster pro it wont grow enough- but the problem with the penimaster pro is that its not possible to constantly wear i think so in the end of the day im not sure.What would you recommend me too buy i have been doing manuels and i am around 18cm nbp i would like too achieve 21 cm nbp after 1-2 years i also do bodybuilding for aesthetic perfection
 

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I have both, I bought it from PEGym link..

From my experience PF with little "modification" is much better than PMP...

If you ask an explanation I would have to spare my time to write then.. :)
 

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We do. What modification are you talking about? Be specific and explain.
 

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Okay take a note that I'm not whatsoever have any affiliate with those brands, I lived in south east asia so I have no interest here, this is truly my experience using both products. Others may have different experience since everybody has different unit in terms of size and shape.


Okay so here is a little bit of my experience about Penimaster Pro PMP and Phallosan Forte (PF)


I believe since long time ago that I can enlarge my unit if you put constant traction to it. I found lots of traction tool but with noose or strap, in my mind using those method is too risky (you guys may have different opinions). And then I found PEGym website in about April this year unintendedly and found a thread that PMP is using vacuum based method to grip your unit, I was thinking finally found the tools that I need since PMP doesn't cut blood flow.


So I ordered PMP through PEGym link with discounted price wich was great. I received PMP a month later and the quality of products is superb.
I began using PMP according to manual and videos provided in their website. Finding the right combination of suction force and size of diapraghm and sluice for me takes about 3 weeks, I even put the sluice ring backward since that the best combination for me (see picture c). I used the the belt system wich I found more comfortable rather than using rod expander that caused stretch marks to the base of my unit, wear additional pad wasn't help either.


I can only managed to wear PMP for about 4 hours a day at max that fits my daily activities, in about 1,5 hours of using it feels something pinching my unit just below the glans, and it feels so hurts especially when I was driving and couldn't do anything to fix it. When I was outside I couldn't wear it back since I never brought the pump (lazy and convenient factor involved), I never use the suction hose since I found it hard to use (I ordered 2 pcs from PMP of this but I used the green pump ball most of the time). With many factors I finally only wear PMP at home, tried using while I sleep was impossible because it makes my unit cold and the glans turns white due to lack of blood circulation. So I started to think that using vacuum method is still not effective, but I still think that it's better than noose or strap method to grip your unit.


Sorry PMP but this is my experience.


Then I found a thread of PF another vacuum based method tool , I research for about a week how the system works, the way it grips my unit is larger area compared to PMP so I think it will solved my problem with my PMP, and then I decided to bought it in the end of July I guess.


I received PF in about 2 weeks, and I found that the quality of material is subpar compare to my PMP, it feels cheap which makes me questioning about breaking it apart , the box is made from hard paper oh gosh..


Nevertheless I began to wear it according to manual and their videos. The combination that fits me is medium bell with small sleeve condom. Supprisingly I can managed to wear it 4 hours without break for the first time, i was happy and start using it for 16 hours that day,, but that was a wrong choice and stupid me I caused blister to my glans. I stopped for a day but I think that I have to wear it so that my glans adapted quicly. On the 3rd day I wear it again with a shorter wearing time with a bit pain from the blister. My gambling decision was right, my glans adapted very quickly.


But still there was problems, the end of the sleeve condoms (see picture b) put pressure to my unit when I use it in long session added by pressure from the comfort pad which is not comfort I think. So I made a bit of modifications. I put pictures here so I can explain better.


I cut the end of the sleeve condom to minimize the pressure and pain to the skin (see picture b)


I love the belt system from PMP, i wear it thru hip so I replaced the PF comfort pad with PMP (see picture a)


The modifications works awesome, I managed to wear PF during the day along with my daily activities, at night I wear PF while I sleep, I hook up the end of the belt into something so my position of my unit is SD while I sleep. I notice every morning I'm having a hard wood while PF still attached to my unit I found this smethod increase girth also in the area where I put my unit inside the bell, just like when you pump but the result was awesome, no fluid build up because the size of the bell is a tad larger than my unit even when I put max vacuum pressure to it.


I'm thinking about requesting a longer bell to PF to produce for increasing girth of the whole shaft..


Sorry for the long story, hope it helps....

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Thanks for replying. None of the pictures are displaying. Just a question, is there any tension in the belt like the rod? Which one did you think was giving you a better stretch, rod or belt? I'm talking about PMP. What are the tension options for the belt? Have you had any gains from PF?
 

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Thanks for replying. None of the pictures are displaying. Just a question, is there any tension in the belt like the rod? Which one did you think was giving you a better stretch, rod or belt? I'm talking about PMP. What are the tension options for the belt? Have you had any gains from PF?


Oh the pictures, sory i forgot. I will attach soon as I get back home. Still outside spending Saturday afternoon with my family (wearing PF of course, its been 5 hours down there.)

On PMP and PF the belt it self act as a spring that creates the pulling force, but on PMP there's no tension indicator how much my pulling force is.

On PMP the pulling force of the rod is 1200g, I think the belt can also create that much.., maybe even higher if you using it as a hanging tools, actually I'm thinking about hanging with PMP but I still have another tool to explore :)

Wearing PMP rod gives me no flexibility, I became a robot when I walk, so I can't give opinion here since i mostly wear the belt.

I use PF for about a month with a high usage time but with smooth tension (the green indicator, never put in yellow indicator yet), combined with jelqing once a day since the beginning of my PE career which in May I guess. I notice an increasing flaccid hang, didn't measure my bpel yet, but my wife said she can feel a difference..

Hope it helps..
 

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Thanks for replying. None of the pictures are displaying. Just a question, is there any tension in the belt like the rod? Which one did you think was giving you a better stretch, rod or belt? I'm talking about PMP. What are the tension options for the belt? Have you had any gains from PF?


Here's a pic of how the traction works.
 

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I update the pictures link, I guess you guys can see it now

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Hi Samuraipower,
I like your explanation. However, i don't understand how do you wear your modified model through hip? As to my understanding of you model, you can only wear it through shoulder and clipping back to you trouser just like PMP strap system. Please correct me if i am wrong.
 

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Thanks a lot Samuraipower. Have you noticed an increase in Flaccid Stretched Length?
 

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hands down the PF when i got the PF i was in the medium bell and measured with there measuring card board cut out its 3 half circles small medium and large i fit perfectly in the med 6 weeks later i no longer fit in the medium cut out and fit perfect in the large cut as well i am now in the large bell so girth has increased in 6 -7 weeks at 8-10 hrs per day. i know can say i have first hand results i will not measure length even though it looks longer i want to give it 3 months in then 6 month measurements.
 

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Hi Samuraipower,
I like your explanation. However, i don't understand how do you wear your modified model through hip? As to my understanding of you model, you can only wear it through shoulder and clipping back to you trouser just like PMP strap system. Please correct me if i am wrong.


Hi BBBB,

This is the video how I wear it, but with my modification belt, I find it very convy.. hope it helps


Video instructions: PeniMasterPRO - hip belt wearing variant.
 
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Thanks a lot Samuraipower. Have you noticed an increase in Flaccid Stretched Length?


Hi vulture,

Yes I notice increasing in flaccid lenght, about 1cm at max including glans enlargement, my wife notice the improvement because the glans got bigger too...I'm wearing it for about a month now so I dont expect a huge improvement but so far I'm happy with that little improvement.

Its hard to measure my bpel because my unit is very shy to ruler, he's trying to hide as soon as he sees the ruler.....
 
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hands down the PF when i got the PF i was in the medium bell and measured with there measuring card board cut out its 3 half circles small medium and large i fit perfectly in the med 6 weeks later i no longer fit in the medium cut out and fit perfect in the large cut as well i am now in the large bell so girth has increased in 6 -7 weeks at 8-10 hrs per day. i know can say i have first hand results i will not measure length even though it looks longer i want to give it 3 months in then 6 month measurements.

Hi Diesel,

Actually I bought PF because I read your PF review thread, I have PMP just like you before I bought PF.. I'm behind your path... thx for your review by the way....
 

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Hi vulture,

Yes I notice increasing in flaccid lenght, about 1cm at max including glans enlargement, my wife notice the improvement because the glans got bigger too...I'm wearing it for about a month now so I dont expect a huge improvement but so far I'm happy with that little improvement.

Its hard to measure my bpel because my unit is very shy to ruler, he's trying to hide as soon as he sees the ruler.....

Stretched out flaccid length? Just want to know if you meant just flaccid or stretched flaccid. And how many hours do you wear a day? Thanks
 

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Stretched out flaccid length? Just want to know if you meant just flaccid or stretched flaccid. And how many hours do you wear a day? Thanks

Oh i mean flaccid stretch,, i wear 10 hours average per day, but sometimes more than 12 hours per day.
 

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Thank you too, and for this great community, before PE my sex life was horrible, only once a month making love,, but after PE it's awesome, my wife ask for more and even teasing me everyday, she is so beautiful I am a lucky person she choose me as her man of her life..
 

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Oh i mean flaccid stretch,, i wear 10 hours average per day, but sometimes more than 12 hours per day.

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Actually I can wear PF for more than 16 hours per day without problems (physically), because its only take a minute to attach. But you know kids and work. I should really start to spend another 1 minute to attach for another 5 hours of usage per day..

Oh and one more thing, after about 3 weeks of using PF I don’t use protector cap any more, because when I erect the the edge of the protector cap was pushing the skin inside the bell causing itchy when i took the PF off,

and the bell is narrower by using protector cap it is not mentioning if my glans getting bigger.

For one reason I always wear PF when I sleep until i wake up because when i erect inside the bell the result is awesome for increasing girth and glans..

Hope it helps..