Determining correct force using an extender

[BDPositive]

Hi guys I'm new to this site but have been reading many post for quite a few months before I joined earlier. I purchased an X4 labs extender a few months ago and have been trying to get into a decent routine with it. The only thing is I 've kinda been struggling on my own trying to work out a few things, and if any experienced users can help me it would be greatly appreciated.
My most important question is this: I have seen many posts up here putting an average on optimal extender tension ranging between 600 and 1200 grams. Now does that mean PER SPRING tension or or TOTAL tension on the penis shaft???....I measured my X4 on a digital scale coming up with tensions of 1500g, 2650g and about 3700g on the first, second and then finally thirds lines.

 

[Dangler]

The grams of the assembled extender is using both springs.
If you ordered 1800 gram springs, then,
the 1st line is 1800/3=600 grams
the 2nd or middle line is 1200 grams
the 3rd line is 1800 grams.
Ask X4 which set you have. Incorrect technique can give fasle readings.

 

[Dangler]

Just checked x4labs site, depending upon the model, they offer 1500, 1800, or 2100 gram sets

 

[BDPositive]

I would say this scale is almost perfect and have taken many averages with the extender compressed on it,...I have an X4 Deluxe Gold which comes with 1800 gram springs apparently.....The reading would make more sense in this case as if u divided my values by 2 theyre much closer to what u suggested......anyway just to confirm, the TOTAL tension on my penis should be between 600 and 1200g(which would mean I wouldnt actually need to pass the first line on the rods???)

 

[Dangler]

yes, and that would leave 2 lines visible.
Sounds like a problem is solved!

measuring springs here:
https://www.pegym.com/forums/groups/x-4-extenders-club-d864-measauring-those-springs.html

 

[BDPositive]

Thanks I really appreciate it, I just dont see why my springs would have a force of double the usual, still doesnt make sense to me when I can clearly see ur scale on the picture reads 1800 grams at top end whereas mine is maxing out at almost 4000g :/

 

[Dickie85]

The grams of the assembled extender is using both springs.
If you ordered 1800 gram springs, then,
the 1st line is 1800/3=600 grams
the 2nd or middle line is 1200 grams
the 3rd line is 1800 grams.
Ask X4 which set you have. Incorrect technique can give fasle readings.

I've seen you say this a lot Dangler, but this is incorrect.

This is because you normally have to put a decent amount of tension on to the springs for them to even move in the first place. For instance, my extender has 1,500g springs, with three marks, so going by your logic, this would mean the markers represent 500g, 1,000g and 1,500g.

However this is not the case, the markers actually represent 900g, 1,200g and 1,500g. The springs don't even move until at least 600g is applied, and then it's a 300g gap between each tension marker from then on.

I have tested this with some electronic scales as well. If I press down with a force of 450g say, the springs just stay where they are. It's only once I exceed 600g that I am able to compress the springs.

 

[Dangler]

Thanks for sharing your opinion., Dickie85.

"This is because you normally have to put a decent amount of tension on to the springs for them to even move "

This is not the case for my X4labs extender. You might want to remove both your springs, swab out the spring chambers with a Q tip wetted with alcohol. Then coat the inner chambers with a lube of your choice, 3 in 1, wd40, or graphite dust.
Also may help to clean the springs themselves.
You want to assure there is little/no friction between the springs and the chamber walls.


My test was a duplicate of another user in the X4 forums, a few years ago.

Not wrong on this one. Different than what you found, yes.

 

[BDPositive]

I agree with what Dangler says in regard to unwanted friction between the springs and the internal chambers, this could affect readings. I did, however, make SURE that my extender was well lubed inside before attempting the grams test as I assumed before that a smooth movement would give me the best possible reading. BUT I STILL GET READINGS OF ABOUT 1500g, 2600g AND LASTLY 3700g ON THE FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD LINES RESPECTIVELY, and I am quite ocd about these things. Why are these springs so strong?? who knows, I just know that I have cranked up the tension to about halfway between the first and second lines, which I also measured to be at about 2000g to 2150g. Past this point the silicone straps start to twist a bit and slowly come loose. And that test was done using a brand new strap, so wear and tear had no effect on such. I am going to see what gains I can get from extending at the first line(1500g) but will continue to remain positive and believe that consistency with these things is key =)

I myt give the velcro straps a go, if they allow the same amount of tension AND are more comfortable, comments appreciated

 

[seaworld]

I can confirm, the so-called 2100g springs sold by X4 Labs produce around 3700g when compressed to the 3rd line. Weird, there seems to be no difference between the 1800g which comes with Deluxe version and those 2100g sold separately.

I have seen post deleted by administrators of X4 Labs forum, lots of questions with missing replies, something is not right about this company.