Why not porn?

[Justryin]

Hi guys, I read in some threads that it is advised not to watch porn while masturbating, any idea why? I mean isn't porn more sex-like than just masturbation by itself?

Also, I try to kegal every time I get to a PONR and try to hold it, expecting that at some point, I'll be able to just use my PC muscle to stop my self from ejaculating and just keep going, is that right? Or is there something I'm missing?

 

[DemOne]

Over time your brain can be trained to only be aroused by porn, which means you run into problems when trying to get an erection when you're in a situation without porn. Masturbating with no porn means you use your imagination, rather than relying on external images to get you off.

 

[Smu]

Porn causes a very high dopamine burst in your brain, much higher than you will ever get from normal sex, which will lead to faster ejaculation. You will reach PONR fast with porn, and that's not very good for training your ejaculatory response.
The longer you masturbate without PONR, the better it is for combating premature ejaculation.
Porn can also lead to sensitized nervous pathways, which will cause an imbalance between your symphatetic and parasymphatetic nervous system, thus leading to faster ejaculation.
Those are the reasons why you shouldn't watch porn if you have premature ejaculation.

Also, as mentioned above, it can affect your ability to get erections without porn, so beware.

 

[jdavid1990]

Porn causes a very high dopamine burst in your brain, much higher than you will ever get from normal sex, which will lead to faster ejaculation. You will reach PONR fast with porn, and that's not very good for training your ejaculatory response.
The longer you masturbate without PONR, the better it is for combating premature ejaculation.
Porn can also lead to sensitized nervous pathways, which will cause an imbalance between your symphatetic and parasymphatetic nervous system, thus leading to faster ejaculation.
Those are the reasons why you shouldn't watch porn if you have premature ejaculation.

Also, as mentioned above, it can affect your ability to get erections without porn, so beware.

I'm the opposite, i spend so much time trying to get my dick up with porn to jelq i end up getting blue balls!

 

[jdavid1990]

Hi guys, I read in some threads that it is advised not to watch porn while masturbating, any idea why? I mean isn't porn more sex-like than just masturbation by itself?

Also, I try to kegal every time I get to a PONR and try to hold it, expecting that at some point, I'll be able to just use my PC muscle to stop my self from ejaculating and just keep going, is that right? Or is there something I'm missing?

Mate, i have a very strong PC muscle of whatever you call it. I dont train it and i can hold it for as long as i want without strain. It doesnt just stop you from ejaculating. It helps! In my opinion watching loads of porn helps you become more immune to visual excitement when a woman takes down her pants an starts sucking you off. You've seen it all before. Thats me though maybe im an anomalie.

 

[bautista19]

Mate, i have a very strong PC muscle of whatever you call it. I dont train it and i can hold it for as long as i want without strain. It doesnt just stop you from ejaculating. It helps! In my opinion watching loads of porn helps you become more immune to visual excitement when a woman takes down her pants an starts sucking you off. You've seen it all before. Thats me though maybe im an anomalie.

I had a DO today in which I held the kegel for 2 minutes afraid I was going to ejac. Holy hell it was unbelievable. I find edging and limited porn use (not everyday for hours) helps me.

I will actually turn the TV on as well as a scene and every now and then I'll shift my focus to that. For a while it was me, my hand and intense focus on my dick and the porn, and I feel I can control my arousal with some other kind out attention outlet. Now all I need to do is get the wife to let me watch football during sex...

 

[second lensman]

Porn like masturbation will make you go blind said the father to his son. His son's reply- "No I'm over here dad."

 

[NCGUY1972]

I say ejaculate to whatever you intend to ejaculate to for the rest of your life if its porn have at it but if you intend to switch to real women (assuming you meant strait porn) at some point then Id hold out for the women. I dont think training your penis to react to your hand is good in any way.

 

[bautista19]

I say ejaculate to whatever you intend to ejaculate to for the rest of your life if its porn have at it but if you intend to switch to real women (assuming you meant strait porn) at some point then Id hold out for the women. I dont think training your penis to react to your hand is good in any way.

What about when your wife is on her period? Come on man, can't we at least have once a month...

 

[MrBigDick]

What about when your wife is on her period? Come on man, can't we at least have once a month...

Or if you don't have a gf or wife...................

You do whatever you feel the need to do. Masturbation isn't a bad thing and if you don't have a gf, it's your sole outlet........nuff said....

 

[Justryin]

Ok... some from what you guys said, I get that it doesn't matter if I masturbate or not, but it won't help? And that doing Kegels won't help me overcome PE, but my just help me get DO's?

So is the whole thing useless? Or is there something to do about it? Man, you guys make me feel depressed now...

 

[chrisli87]

Ok... some from what you guys said, I get that it doesn't matter if I masturbate or not, but it won't help? And that doing Kegels won't help me overcome PE, but my just help me get DO's?

So is the whole thing useless? Or is there something to do about it? Man, you guys make me feel depressed now...

Wow ok, no offence to the other guys that have replied so far, but they aren't doing much in the way of inspiring a new-comer to this forum. (sorry, no offence to the guys that weren't being negative)

Alot of people in this section of the forum would be able to attest to the fact that you can do something about it.
The general consensus is to do a routine of kegels (focused on reverse kegels), edging and some sort of arousal control training. And of course to your original question porn is not advised. Why?

Smu hit the nail on the head. The purpose of edging is to masturbate while trying to prolong the time to PONR, to try and train your ejaculatoy reflex to not just "go off" as soon as you get a bit of stimulation. Watching porn is going to get you there alot quicker.
Also while edging you should be concentrating on your body and observing everything that happens as you get closer to PONR. My first week of edging i learnt a truck-load about my body and how it responds in a sexual state. Also if you didn't already read this somewhere, it is advised to only ejaculate every 3 days as this will also help train your body into not thinking stimulation/arousal needs to lead to ejaculation.
Another point is you shouldn't wait till your just about at the PONR to do something. This is often too late. you should do something as soon as you feel the inkling that PONR is approaching.

If you haven't already, check out the two sticky threads, you'll learn alot about how people have cured themselves.

I personally am still a work in progress, but believe arousal control is the most important thing to get under control, and also one of the hardest (Thats my opinion)
I'm currently experimenting with some Taoist techniques but i have no tangible success with it yet (i'm only in my first week) so i would advise sticking with the mainstream approach which you'll find in the aforementioned sticky threads

anyway best of luck, and it is possible to cure premature ejaculation....... I like to believe so anyway

 

[Mikes Mrs]

From what I have read and seen on this site, looking at the polls about 90% of men masterbate from once a month to a few times a day.
When I have my period my hubby has 4 nights of porn and masterbation, I prefer that than him going out and painting the town red.
we discussed it that no other time can he look at porn or masterbate when he has me available.
How often do you masturbate? - View Poll Results only 1 out of 26 don't.

 

[naturesucks]

Over time your brain can be trained to only be aroused by porn, which means you run into problems when trying to get an erection when you're in a situation without porn. Masturbating with no porn means you use your imagination, rather than relying on external images to get you off.

This is nonsense, since when you see a hot girl naked in real life is x10000 more arousing than some porn.
Of course porn is more arousing if you are fuking average/meh girls (I would rather masturbate to hot girls than delude myself into thinking non-hot girls make me horny)


Most of the guys that critisize porn aren't getting girls as hot in real life, so they try to forget about the hot girls in the movies because then in comparation with the dull girls they are getting they can't get hard.

Porn causes a very high dopamine burst in your brain, much higher than you will ever get from normal sex, which will lead to faster ejaculation. You will reach PONR fast with porn, and that's not very good for training your ejaculatory response.
The longer you masturbate without PONR, the better it is for combating premature ejaculation.
Porn can also lead to sensitized nervous pathways, which will cause an imbalance between your symphatetic and parasymphatetic nervous system, thus leading to faster ejaculation.
Those are the reasons why you shouldn't watch porn if you have premature ejaculation.

Also, as mentioned above, it can affect your ability to get erections without porn, so beware.

Bro-science from that famous video. Actual experience says otherwise: Me and my friends grew up in the internet generation. We started watching porn at 12ish and even shared the porn we could find on places like Kazaa. Good ol times. Guess what, everyone of them is an amazing fucker always surrounded by hot girls, no sexual problems whatsoever. Im pretty sure they don't even know what a kegel is.
Im the only one that got unlucky and condemned with premature ejaculation thus ruining my sex life. Im good looking too so it's even more frustrating since you have girls coming at you. So 1 out of 10 guys got premature ejaculation from watching porn since the very early years. The porn=premature ejaculation link becomes irrelenvant.

Mate, i have a very strong PC muscle of whatever you call it. I dont train it and i can hold it for as long as i want without strain. It doesnt just stop you from ejaculating. It helps! In my opinion watching loads of porn helps you become more immune to visual excitement when a woman takes down her pants an starts sucking you off. You've seen it all before. Thats me though maybe im an anomalie.

No, you make perfect sense. Masturbating to a POV scene (point of view) is the closest you can train yourself with and don't be as overwhelmed with the real thing when it happens, and the real thing is a million times more stimulating.
Example:

(Not Safe For Work +18 etc) http://www.4tube.com/videos/146233/rocco-siffredi-gets-his-dick-sucked-by-abigaile-johnson

This is the ideal since it's filmed in a way that the camera simulates your eyes and what you would see in real life. Of course, people that critisize porn are mad because their girls/gfs/wifes don't look like that, and after seeing that and then going back
to reality is such a downgrade, which would explain the difficulty to not get hard as easy in a more inmediate way.

 

[NCGUY1972]

when my wife is on her period I have 4 days of blow jobs, I would minimize masturbation if possible and cut out porn all together.

 

[bautista19]

If you don't have porn induced ED, porn shouldn't be a problem.

I also feel, when you are with a woman there is a hell of a lot more going on that only penile stimulation which is what you're doing to your hand without porn. Sex with a hot, horny, soft skinned girl with a dripping pussy is a lot more intense than training for sex without porn, a blank mind and your hand or even a FL.

christli87 says what I feel. I believe success is in controlling arousal during intense moments. If it takes me 20-25 minutes to reach a PONR w/o porn honestly that is too long. I feel like I'll be getting used to low levels of stimulation. With porn I feel the need to start controlling arousal 5-6 minutes in the hold off PONR to 12-14 minutes. I am using RKs and meditation to help control this arousal now. I used to jerk off in like 45-60 seconds w/ porn.

Also, don't wait for the feeling of PONR to begin arousal control, do it early and often.

Recently I edged to a MF porn and PONR didn't show up for 24 minutes and I edged it nicely and quit. Yesterday I found a nice new lesbian porn, something I almost never watch, and holy hell it was hot. I had to practice arousal control about 2-3 minutes in, and I edged twice and the second one was unreal. It felt better than an actual ejaculation.

Note, I have seen only modest success from 1 to 5 minutes average with maybe 10% of the time going longer than 10. However, a bonus w dry orgasms is that when you finally cum, it's like a porn star's load. It feels unbelievable.

So, even if DO/edging don't make you last longer, cumming will feel better.

 

[dur123]

I think its complete rubbish all the people saying things like " its not what real women are like, its not what real women do" and " its not real. He might have cum in 2 minutes then then stop filming and waited to continue. Basically all the ideas that its giving you a fake idea of sex I think is wrong.

A lot of porn is in one take, my girlfriend will do most of what you see on standard porn, and I have been with plenty of girls with porn star figures. So people then saying to me its giving me a false impression I think are wrong.

My theory is that watching porn instantly puts you to at least a 4/10 on the level of arousal scale. Over time you learn to start at this level even without a boner, rather than gradually building up from 1.

You then learn to become reliant on porn. To test this ( if you have been watching porn for a while) , try and get a boner without porn. You probably will struggle initially.

Porn I think also makes you want to cum. The sounds, visuals etc are always full on, its never slow like real sex can be. Therefore you slowly learn want to cum quicker and quicker.

I think its best to get rid of porn. Even though logically it seems to me using porn would aid with PreE, it definitely doesnt help at all and I think its the reason for my PreE