Problems Of Getting TOO Big?

[fighookedafeeling]

What's up everybody,

Just wondering if any of the bigger guys here (over 7.5in length — 5.75in girth) have any problems with sex.

• Maybe disappointing blowjobs because she can't fit it in her mouth...
• Painful sex because it's too thick or long...
• Really slow or "vanilla" sex because you can't be rough/go balls deep...

I think those insights could be pretty useful for guys trying to get there.

You often hear about the aim to bet the 8x6in guy. But rarely do we hear about the downsides.

Anyone is welcome to give their opinions and share their experiences of course, but I think the most valuable ones would be from the bigger guys with "bigger" sample sizes.

i.e. someone at or over 7.5x5.75 with at least 5 different "laids" while being that size.

If you went from 6x5 to 8x6, your wife's the only one who has experienced the difference, and she's raging about it... I mean you can share but the sample size is small. maybe having sex with another girl would cause problems.

Of course your sexual life is likely to improve if you go from 4 to 5 inches in girth, most women can accommodate that, same for going from 5 to 6 inches in length

Just like with penis size, vaginas are normally distributed (probably), so the whole point is trying to have a rough picture of where the upper limit is for penis size-vagina compatibility for most women in the normal distribution (bell curve, just like IQ.)

Basically:

For guys at/over 7.5x5.75in with 5 or more sexual experiences at that size: Have any of your partners experienced problems when trying to accommodate your size? Which problems? Did you have to be more gentle when having sex?

Thanks!

Please, avoid the argument:

"Women are designed to give birth."

Women's bodies go through A LOT of changes during pregnancy, the fact that a baby can get out, doesn't mean that it can get in on a regular basis. Or that you fit a 15in dildo in.

Speaking about dildos, reserve that argument for yourself too, for many dildos the advertised length and the actual insertable length vary.

Also please, no comment when it comes to porn sizes or the like. Porn plays lost of trick to make dicks look way bigger, they also select for guys with bigger dicks, and for girls who can take those bigger dicks, survivorship bias.

The same goes for any online community:

If you go to a subreddit that's all about Dragon dildos you are going to find a lot of women who can accommodate those, that's where they hang out. That doesn't mean most women can.

It's the same with following all the hot girls on IG, it may give you the impression that 9s and 10s are everywhere, but they are not, you are just selecting the top 1000 women from a pool of over 1 billion.

Also, please avoid comments without any logic behind them like:

"Bigger is ALWAYS better."

And lastly, avoid:

"My female friends say XYZ"

Listen, women can't really estimate the length and girth of a penis very well, we've all heard the term "girl inches."

Also, surely bigger dicks LOOK better and evoke a lot of curiosity in women, granted. You may know of a guy in college with an 8in dick and all the girls wanted to fuck him.

Most women had the "fantasy" of experiencing a really big dick at least once, but that doesn't mean that's what's going to work best for them on the regular, or even on a 1 nightstand.

What looks good and what feels good are different things, and the fact that they are curious about it doesn't mean that once they try it they are going to like it more because of it.

Even beyond that, what women consider big and what's actually big are different things, a girl who's had sex with 3 guys and all of them were 5 inches in length, has sex with a 6.5in, that's going to be very big.

Perspective and past experiences matter.

Sorry for all those "restrictions" but I want to keep this as accurate and bullshit-free as possible since I think will benefit us all. I don't way bitter guys say stupid things without any ACTUAL PERSONAL experience or logic behind it just because they are angry at some 20-year-old girl who told them once that their dick was small.

 

[PhallicPhun]

I'm married so my sample size is one but I can say that my wife has become accustomed to my length over time. I have to be careful until she completely relaxes and then I can go balls deep with all 8x6. I've always been girthy and my wife is very tight so girth was an issue when we first had sex but now it's not a problem at all. I started at 6.25x5.5 which she already found big at first, but over time she's been able to take all of it easily. Neither of us had many partners previously but my girth at only 5.5 was a problem with smaller girls. One girl I couldn't even get it in but she was small and I'm pretty sure was a virgin. We never had sex. I couldn't get it in.

When I started doing PE I had really significant noobie gains which to be honest caused her some pain as I was used to just going nuts but now it hits the end with some force and she needs to warm up. My dick is physically too fat for my wife to take all of it orally, even before the half inch gain in girth. Nothing to do with length it just won't fit, at least not without her gagging. We've tried it's just not an option. Maybe some women can deep throat without gagging. I've only had one girlfriend in the past who could deep throat it. Length wasn't a problem for her but she really struggled with the girth. You also need to be aware that her mouth is only so large so if you get really girthy, teeth come into play.

My situation may be unique in that I've had a slightly larger than average length and above average girth with one woman for two decades now and only in the last 8 months has she dealt with 8 inches and a little more girth, but we've learned to accommodate it. I'll also be honest she likes the "full" feeling but the improved erection quality is by far what she enjoys the most since I've gotten bigger. The look on her face when she sees junior at full glory is also priceless.

 

[Dreadsteed]

I know that I am a pretty extreme outlier on size, so this may not be relatable to many. I hope I don't offend anyone by posting on a size-related thread and try to avoid it in general. That said, I have also seen a fair few people on here saying they want 10+inches and huge girths to go with it, so I think going into some detail on my experiences could be relevant for at least those people, or anyone curious or perhaps disillusioned as to what it would be like. I will always advise trying to make sure one does not get Too big for the exact reason that sex can become difficult. Unless your current partner is onboard with your growth goals ofc. I have been with around 40 women where things progressed to the point of sex, about half of which actually involved what I would consider proper, thrusting sex - so I would say my sample size is decent. I am also going on about 5 and a half years now in a happy, monogamous relationship with my current lady.

As for oral sex, I've found oral at a large girth is very difficult for most women to undertake, and has been even more difficult than vaginal sex in some cases from personal exp. Disappointing oral abounded. My currently lady and 1 or 2 other abnormal sword-swallowers aside; most of the women who did oral on me could easily fit my head in their mouth. A few could get 1-3 inches past the head even, but Very few could fit me far into their throat. This was seldom due to length imo, and I would say almost solely due to girth. It was a quick trigger for the gag reflex and the stretch on the skin around the tonsils/uvula was too great. They would use their hands to compensate for lack of depth, but I've never been one for handjobs, and that was never something that did much for me sensation-wise during oral. As one can imagine it was very frustratingly-light sensations that felt more like a tease. Frustrating also for those who cared about more than just the novelty of it. I never had an orgasm from oral early on, despite some of them trying very hard and for a long time. Their efforts not being enough to make me orgasm led to some expressed insecurity and disappointment over it, and a couple actively avoiding performing oral because of that. It wasn't until much later on in dating that I learned how to make myself orgasm from such light stimulation. On a brighter note however, a few could take quite a bit of it orally. My current lady had troubles at first getting past her tonsils, but she has a strong oral-fixation so she kept trying religiously. She even had her tonsils removed to make more room for it and once that healed we found she could take most of my length after a few months of effort. She practiced by holding it in her throat while it was flaccid, letting the erection expand and stretch her throat - then pulled it out when it got too girthy, caught her breath, tried to take it a few more times before it got too hard, and then she waited for it to go back down to repeat. I would recommend trying that if your lady struggles with your girth orally but still wants to give you deepthroat eventually as it did help her a lot in getting her throat accustomed to the size. As I gained a bit in girth from PE to my current size (wanna say I was around 7.5-7.75 meg before PE but didn't measure girth back then), and when I have a strong EQ, she can take around 3 inches less now than she could before, though she still works on it like a trooper using the same technique. But a 3 inch loss in deepthroat capacity for girth gains was an unforeseen negative for sure. I imagine most people closing in on a rather large lengthxgirth goal will encounter this problem with their partner as well, and unless you just don't like being deepthroated or you have a lady who is down for the challenge, I would really try to pay close attention to when you are closing in on your partners throating limits. Oral just around the head is not very satisfying imo.

As for sex, a few people I dated decided last-minute not to even try to have sex when it came down to it. Either because they thought it was just too big from foreplay and oral or thought it would hurt too much. The majority at least tried to get it inside though, and about half of the women I've been with either didn't try, tried and couldn't fit the girth in for more than the head and an inch or two of the shaft, or (and for most) the stretch was just painful or unpleasant enough with little to no movement that they or I stopped the sex. And not being able to have sex can be a real buzzkill on a budding relationship. So the number of women I've been with that I've had proper sex with is probably more around the 18-20 range give or take what you can call proper sex. As for those who could handle enough girth for proper sex, I'd say the average depth seemed around 6-8 inches of penetration to bottom-out, with a few women who could take a bit more or a little less. So there does indeed seem to be some anecdotal merit to women being on average somewhere slightly deeper than the average male size. Important to also keep in mind though that they always did know my size beforehand, so one can assume that very likely skewed the women I encountered towards those who thought they could take a bit more or had a larger-size kink and would have deterred women who knew they couldn't take so much. So those averages could be rendered much less meaningful as the OP points out. The shallowest I could fit in was about 5 inches deep I'd say, and my current lady with years of practice being able to take more than anyone else by a long shot at about 10-11 inches vaginally depending on how relaxed she is.

I was always fine with taking things slow and never pushed for more penetration than they could handle, but when the fit was tight the sex being a bit "vanilla" or mundane for me because of being careful is definitely a big issue. You can't go fast without too much friction, or the pressure on her pelvic bone was too uncomfortable. If the girth was too much but she wanted to try anyways then this was a pronounced issue. Lots of lube and slow or shallow thrusting was needed or there would be some small vaginal tearing and a recovery time before trying sex again. However for the women I was with who could handle the girth right away or stretched to a comfortable state after a few sessions, then it was much less of an issue and we could go harder and have more normal sex. I've always been too long on the length side so my perspective might be a little different, but hurting them with length is something you usually have more control over in most positions. I can see it being a problem if you are both used to being able to take your size already while going HAM though for sure. For me length was less of a problem because I was already pretty paranoid about bending my unit during sex and injuring myself with having a lot left outside, especially in positions that potentially held their body weight against it or when they started doing curves, circles, or jerks with their hips. I had a girl early on doing cowgirl with a bit of weight leaning into it that bucked her hips real hard randomly and bent my shaft in a real uncomfortable/painful way that made me try and avoid that later on. But there has been many times where they relaxed more after a longer session and they would hit their cervix at a bad angle in cowgirl or doggy positions when we were going at it or thrusting in opposite directions at the same time. I think if you can find your lady's anterior/posterior fornix and try to avoid grinding right on the cervix in a couple sensitive positions (namely cowgirl and doggy) you can do some deep grinding without hurting them. It's the deep thrusting when the cervix starts to relax and hang down a bit that can get you into trouble. In my opinion the real main problem with too much length that seldom gets considered is that every inch you can't fit inside your lady during sex is an inch that gets little to no stimulation during sex. If you're already bottoming out in your lady or have some length left outside already, you have to weigh whether new gains are worth potentially less stimulation during sex. As long as most of your shaft can fit inside, I don't think it's too big a deal though.

That leads me to anal sex. Not everyone is down with it, and that is perfectly okay. To each their own. However when it comes to anal, in my experience, if they could handle my girth in the backdoor, then the length was almost never an issue. But that said, girth really really matters here. I've only been with 7 women who wanted to try anal, 3 of those 7 women backed-down from anal play after trying cause the girth was too intense a stretch, and another only liked it once in a blue moon cause she thought it was "enjoyable but too strenuous for regular play" and saved it for when she was really turned on. But the women who could handle the girth could take several inches more length than they could vaginally after some practice (granted my girth is less than my meg near the head and leading up to the base, and pretty uniform in the middle). This is also the only form of sex where full-penetration has been possible for me, and that is with my current lady. She was interested in anal and had plenty of toys to practice on. She had no problems adjusting from training plugs up to my previous size over about 3 months. Though during my girth training gains she noticed it was getting significantly harder to stretch around. For a while she couldn't take much anally anymore and went back to plug training. She did slowly stretch to be able to fit in the new girth again, though it came with a stern warning to stop gaining any more girth or else anal was off the table, and thus ended my pumping days But worth noting that the larger your girth, the exponentially harder anal will be, and every mm gained is a sizable hurdle for your partner.

Sorry this post is so long but there are several downsides to being overly large and several forms of sex it can effect. The TLDR is that it doesn't take too much to get "uncomfortably big" with your PE goals for your lady for several forms of sex, even if you can still fit inside her, if you aren't paying attention to her limits.

 

[paul7979]

Well thanks, this is a very informative post. Can you please elaborate a little more on the aspot and gspot angles and experience ?

 

[rbi99]

Orally my wife can only take my glans into her mouth. Prior to adding the approximate inch that I did of mid erect girth, she could go partway down my shaft. Intercourse has been replaced by great foreplay action between my wife and I.

 

[Dreadsteed]

Well thanks, this is a very informative post. Can you please elaborate a little more on the aspot and gspot angles and experience ?

Sure can do. I've found the G-spot sensitivity and the angles for reaching the A&P-spots (Anterior/Posterior fornix) will vary between women and how they handle your girth, but I can give my general experience with finding/hitting them with the women I was with.
I've found the G-spot was pretty much in the same place for the women I focused on it with, regardless of their depth capacity - about 1-2 inches above the pelvic bone on the inside. What seemed to vary more between women was how sensitive they were to G-spot stimulation. Whether or not they were already experienced with trying G-spot stimulation seemed to be the biggest factor for how easy or hard it was to get them to orgasm from it. And not all orgasmed from the G-spot, especially if it was new to them. And if they were "in-tune" with the feeling then just regular penetration was sometimes good enough to build pressure for them. However a common theme with the women struggling to handle my girth around their entrance was that trying to target the G-spot put too much strain around the pelvic bone and it was usually uncomfortable for them. A good angle for hitting this for me was with shallow penetration while angling upwards. If the woman was on her back, getting her in a posterior pelvic tilt emphasized grinding my head against the G-spot. I found a semi-cowgirl position with them leaning back on their arms was sufficient, with them doing most of the grinding. Alternatively putting a pillow or two under their butt in missionary would replicate this angle without them having to try and tilt their hips at all, and this gives the control back to you. I can hit the G-spot through anal in the same raised position with my current lady as well, which she found was better for her for learning how to orgasm from G-spot stimulation.

As for the A-spot, deep penetration this time and again a posterior pelvic tilt on their end (assuming they are facing you) with an upward shaft angle was best for settling in the pocket just above the cervix with the women I was with. This one always felt easier to sit in when they were more relaxed inside. The cervix seems to start out lifted up and out of the way more with an anterior tilt (which also makes the angle for the A-spot slightly worse), and the cervix descends a little on the posterior side once they're more relaxed inside after having sex for a while. Although the angle of the cervix seemed to vary a little with some of the ladies I was with. Depending on your length I would say this is the one position that has the most potential to hurt if you apply too much pressure into the pocket, as there isn't nearly as much stretching room as there is on the posterior side. My current lady is the only one who experienced my girth gains, and she says the tugging feeling around her cervix from A-spot holds or pulses is a little stronger now than before. Which is not always a good thing depending on how tense or relaxed she feels down there - her being more relaxed making it a good feeling and tense being too much tug on the cervix for early on into sex. But I was told from multiple women that it felt like a tug on their cervix before my gains in girth as well. I tried a couple positions to get this one down. Missionary was no good for this for me cause it always tends to put my unit at a more downward angle. Again, same as the G-spot but with deep penetration, a Cowgirl position with them leaning on their arms and hips posteriorly tilted was good. Also the Chair position was a good angle, but for fear of them bending my shaft with their bodyweight I usually preferred the Spoon position for prolonged stimulation. If they didn't like leaning back into a Cowgirl or their arms got tired then a Reverse Wheelbarrow position worked really good for getting the upward angle and a posterior tilt in their hips, while also letting you take more control of the movement.

For the P-spot, the best thing I found was to try and get them to have an Anterior pelvic tilt, while I had a downward angle to my shaft. This is the easiest to angle into imo as most positions tend to put me into a downward angle inside them. This is the pocket below the cervix and it has much more stretch capacity in my experiences. The "tug" feeling on the cervix also was much less pronounced for them and they could handle harder thrusting or holds here than in the anterior pocket area, though when girth was an issue they did still feel a tug in the P-spot. Positions that were good for angles included Doggystyle, Missionary, Reverse Cowgirl, and Wheelbarrow with a concave arch in their lower back for that anterior pelvic tilt. The anterior tilt pulls the cervix more to the top and pulls the pocket deeper so you don't as easily collide with the cervix. I dated a lot of girls that were taller than me, so I usually did Standing Doggy rather than on my knees. Just like with putting pillows under their butt for the G-spot, I also found I could put pillows under there hips while they're laying on their stomach for a good angle so they don't have to support their self (good if they're getting tired as this is usually later on in a session).

From exp, most liked the A&P-spot stim better once they relaxed a bit into a session. I do 3 kinds of holds that seemed to work best across multiple women. A simple hold against their pocket, a hold while trying to do circular motions, and a light pulsing against the pocket. For the P-spot I've found I can thrust against it fairly hard if my girth isn't an issue for her, and pulses or circles were better than staying still while doing a hold. My holds can be between 2-5 seconds with some thrusts in-between. Most did not like thrusts against the A-spot much with the tug feeling, so only holding motions there. Every woman is a little different on pressures or angles they prefer to avoid the tug feelings on the cervix or to best build their orgasms, these are just what I found worked best for me and I still do these things with my current lady regularly with success.

 

[Dreadsteed]

Orally my wife can only take my glans into her mouth. Prior to adding the approximate inch that I did of mid erect girth, she could go partway down my shaft. Intercourse has been replaced by great foreplay action between my wife and I.

Completely replaced? Was it already a tight fit before your girth gains during intercourse?

 

[incogneeetoe]

What's up everybody,

Just wondering if any of the bigger guys here (over 7.5in length — 5.75in girth) have any problems with sex.

• Maybe disappointing blowjobs because she can't fit it in her mouth...
• Painful sex because it's too thick or long...
• Really slow or "vanilla" sex because you can't be rough/go balls deep...

I think those insights could be pretty useful for guys trying to get there.

Basically:

For guys at/over 7.5x5.75in with 5 or more sexual experiences at that size: Have any of your partners experienced problems when trying to accommodate your size? Which problems? Did you have to be more gentle when having sex?

I'm not exactly the target but I can add a little. I started at 7x5.7, and had more than 5 partners at that size. And even at that starting size I did run into difficulty with blowjobs and painful sex. My wife and I really had to go slow with vanilla sex because I could not go balls deep. But I had only really been able to go "balls deep" with a few women.

Since PE, I have gained >2x1, but only have been with one woman. I will say, as I have gained in size, it has changed the sex life somewhat. I keep more out in the air. If that is one thing I can contribute: you do not need to have the whole erection in. I have never put it all in my wife, and as I gained length, more is left out. She, however, sees that as a turn on. She tries to get more in, and the amount out in the air gets here excited.

More important is girth. That takes adjustment. When I have mad significant girth gains, like 1/4 inch increments, she has need time to get used to it. It is a matter of just going slow. More problematic is her ability to continue. She can have one orgasm, but then has to stop because it is too big. After the adjustment period it is ok, but while adjusting it can be frustrating.

In the last year as I have approach 7 inch girth she has had other problems. I am not 100% sure it is because of me, but she has had to have 6 week breaks from sex twice in 2021. Once to recover from a hemorrhoid operation and the second to recover from a rupture to her hemorrhoid operation. We do not nor have never even tried anal. But the hemorrhoid is on the side of her anal cavity that is up against the back vaginal wall. She thinks the sex has cause the trouble. I worry she may be right. My wife is not a big woman, and my girth may be just enough to be causing trouble.

Food for thought.

I've mentioned before about oral. My wife is not one for oral. It had been years between attempts, and she tried last week. Couldn't take more than the head in her mouth. For me it is not a big deal, as it is few and far between, but for other guys it should be a consideration. The big girth in her hand is a big turn on, so I am happy.

 

[paul7979]

Sure can do. I've found the G-spot sensitivity and the angles for reaching the A&P-spots (Anterior/Posterior fornix) will vary between women and how they handle your girth, but I can give my general experience with finding/hitting them with the women I was with.
I've found the G-spot was pretty much in the same place for the women I focused on it with, regardless of their depth capacity - about 1-2 inches above the pelvic bone on the inside. What seemed to vary more between women was how sensitive they were to G-spot stimulation. Whether or not they were already experienced with trying G-spot stimulation seemed to be the biggest factor for how easy or hard it was to get them to orgasm from it. And not all orgasmed from the G-spot, especially if it was new to them. And if they were "in-tune" with the feeling then just regular penetration was sometimes good enough to build pressure for them. However a common theme with the women struggling to handle my girth around their entrance was that trying to target the G-spot put too much strain around the pelvic bone and it was usually uncomfortable for them. A good angle for hitting this for me was with shallow penetration while angling upwards. If the woman was on her back, getting her in a posterior pelvic tilt emphasized grinding my head against the G-spot. I found a semi-cowgirl position with them leaning back on their arms was sufficient, with them doing most of the grinding. Alternatively putting a pillow or two under their butt in missionary would replicate this angle without them having to try and tilt their hips at all, and this gives the control back to you. I can hit the G-spot through anal in the same raised position with my current lady as well, which she found was better for her for learning how to orgasm from G-spot stimulation.

As for the A-spot, deep penetration this time and again a posterior pelvic tilt on their end (assuming they are facing you) with an upward shaft angle was best for settling in the pocket just above the cervix with the women I was with. This one always felt easier to sit in when they were more relaxed inside. The cervix seems to start out lifted up and out of the way more with an anterior tilt (which also makes the angle for the A-spot slightly worse), and the cervix descends a little on the posterior side once they're more relaxed inside after having sex for a while. Although the angle of the cervix seemed to vary a little with some of the ladies I was with. Depending on your length I would say this is the one position that has the most potential to hurt if you apply too much pressure into the pocket, as there isn't nearly as much stretching room as there is on the posterior side. My current lady is the only one who experienced my girth gains, and she says the tugging feeling around her cervix from A-spot holds or pulses is a little stronger now than before. Which is not always a good thing depending on how tense or relaxed she feels down there - her being more relaxed making it a good feeling and tense being too much tug on the cervix for early on into sex. But I was told from multiple women that it felt like a tug on their cervix before my gains in girth as well. I tried a couple positions to get this one down. Missionary was no good for this for me cause it always tends to put my unit at a more downward angle. Again, same as the G-spot but with deep penetration, a Cowgirl position with them leaning on their arms and hips posteriorly tilted was good. Also the Chair position was a good angle, but for fear of them bending my shaft with their bodyweight I usually preferred the Spoon position for prolonged stimulation. If they didn't like leaning back into a Cowgirl or their arms got tired then a Reverse Wheelbarrow position worked really good for getting the upward angle and a posterior tilt in their hips, while also letting you take more control of the movement.

For the P-spot, the best thing I found was to try and get them to have an Anterior pelvic tilt, while I had a downward angle to my shaft. This is the easiest to angle into imo as most positions tend to put me into a downward angle inside them. This is the pocket below the cervix and it has much more stretch capacity in my experiences. The "tug" feeling on the cervix also was much less pronounced for them and they could handle harder thrusting or holds here than in the anterior pocket area, though when girth was an issue they did still feel a tug in the P-spot. Positions that were good for angles included Doggystyle, Missionary, Reverse Cowgirl, and Wheelbarrow with a concave arch in their lower back for that anterior pelvic tilt. The anterior tilt pulls the cervix more to the top and pulls the pocket deeper so you don't as easily collide with the cervix. I dated a lot of girls that were taller than me, so I usually did Standing Doggy rather than on my knees. Just like with putting pillows under their butt for the G-spot, I also found I could put pillows under there hips while they're laying on their stomach for a good angle so they don't have to support their self (good if they're getting tired as this is usually later on in a session).

From exp, most liked the A&P-spot stim better once they relaxed a bit into a session. I do 3 kinds of holds that seemed to work best across multiple women. A simple hold against their pocket, a hold while trying to do circular motions, and a light pulsing against the pocket. For the P-spot I've found I can thrust against it fairly hard if my girth isn't an issue for her, and pulses or circles were better than staying still while doing a hold. My holds can be between 2-5 seconds with some thrusts in-between. Most did not like thrusts against the A-spot much with the tug feeling, so only holding motions there. Every woman is a little different on pressures or angles they prefer to avoid the tug feelings on the cervix or to best build their orgasms, these are just what I found worked best for me and I still do these things with my current lady regularly with success.

Well this is a very very detailed explanation.. thank you..

What do you mean with "Reverse Wheelbarrow position"?

In your experience how do a spot or p spot orgasm feel as compared to clitoral orgasms ? We have been trying a lot but maybe I'm very much on the shorter side (7 inches and like 5 " 3 girth) so no success so far.. maybe i have some hope as far as the a spot goes .

so girth is important even for aspot and pspot?

Thanks again

 

[Dreadsteed]

What do you mean with "Reverse Wheelbarrow position"?

Reverse Wheelbarrow just has the woman flipped around. She is laying on her upper back, with her hips raised to your groin and you are holding her legs on your chest and her calves going over your shoulders. I’ll link a picture if that is allowed :bad:

In your experience how do a spot or p spot orgasm feel as compared to clitoral orgasms ? We have been trying a lot but maybe I'm on the shorter side (7 inches and like 5 " 3 girth) so no success so far.. maybe i have some hope as far as the a spot goes .

so girth is important even for aspot and pspot?

Thanks again

Women tended to describe the orgasms a little different, but they were full-body spasms or clenches, whereas the clitoral orgasms were more local and less intense for the rest of the body. Doing a firm hold against the wall in either spot usually makes them involuntarily clench down against it and the pressure created builds an orgasm.
A couple of the women I was with couldn’t get more than about 6 inches of penetration even, so it may come down to how deep your lady is and the angle you’re trying to reach what spot from. Depending on how long your fingers are you can sometimes even reach the A-spot just with your middle finger. I have rather small hands though so I could rarely do this. But the cervix area gets smoother to the touch so that’s usually how you can tell you’re in the right vicinity. Also make sure you’re reaching for these spots later on in your sex session so she’s had time to relax inside. However I’ve heard you can usually reach these spots without needing as much penetrative depth with some steeper angles. If you want to really max out your penetration I’ve heard good things about doing a form of the Scissor Straddle for pelvic-to-pelvic access. I don’t have much exp with the steeper angle positions unfortunately, most of them put too much of their bodyweight against my unit for me to want to try. Practice makes perfect though and communicating about how what things you try feel for her could steer you in the right direction. I try and promote as good of communication as I can when I have sex so I can understand what she is feeling. If she’s never had these orgasms then she likely will not know enough about how she is feeling to tell you what alterations to make, so you have to explore that together. Sometimes it does take time for them to learn how to orgasm certain ways too.

As Incogneeetoe pointed out there can be psychological benefits to length, like if it mentally arouses them, which can make a big impact. And certainly you have to reach the spots. But girth does seem to be more important for building orgasms, as it gives a wider stretch and a more tangible object for them to squeeze down on or push against - which is what helps them build an orgasm from what they’ve described. But it doesn't seem to be make or break for the A&P-spots of that is your concern. A few of the women had been able to orgasm from much smaller girth’s with previous partners from the same spots. It was just easier to build the orgasm for some with more girth to push against. That said, too much girth for the A-spot in particular can sometimes be bad, like I mentioned with the cervical tugging I’ve had described to me from multiple women. Sometimes it is too much of a distraction on their build up for an orgasm or can just be straight uncomfortable.

 

[paul7979]

Thanks a lot for your detailed response. Happy new year!

 

[TheAce]

My wife enjoys it when I pulse on her cervix then even pound it when she's warmed up (at a fully erect 8x6). Girth sometimes takes a little to get in if she's not really wet and I'm not fully hard.

That was never a problem before but I was younger and thinner in girth and she was younger and wetter... But the orgasms come much quicker and stronger at 6" girth than they ever did at 4.8-5"...

 

[Big Al]

A longer penis may be more prone to thrusting into the cervix, which can be a painful experience.

A girthy penis can cause pain for someone with an inadequately lubed or tight vagina.

 

[TheAce]

The girth has been the biggest problem for me at times, as my wife loves it when I pulse on her deep spot. Her on top she has to be careful as it gets a little too deep at times. At 6" girth I have noticed if my wife isn't wet and I don't have lube it's really hard to get in (especially if EQ is not great). Last weekend I tried getting in after a few drinks but I couldn't get the head in and I had to settle for a HJ/BJ. But we picked up some lube and the next night was no problem...

 

[BigO]

It's all about being patient and a bit of foreplay. Honestly, if tour 7.5 x 5.7, your simply not too big for just about any woman.

If your a douche weasel you can cause pain with less size, if your moderately skilled you can cause pleasure being well endowed.

 

[Pegasus]

Ok I started at 6.75 by 4.75" but I did spend a very long time at 7.75 by 5.5 , later I discovered "mainstream " pe and grew some more .

So the 7.75 definitee did require changes in technique but it is quite doable and I found myselff doing the tek changes automatically after awhile . In regard to girth at 5.5" I did find a bit more warm up might be necessary but not major issues . In recent times I have been over 8" by 6" . Like many guys onsite I have found girths over 6" can be an issue and are harder to get around with skill warm up etc .

 

[SexAndTheSea]

So I'm only around 7.6x6ish on a normal day. I've had sex with about 50 women at this size, and I've run into a few negatives though not many. Most women have had only positive things to say about it, but occasionally I'll have sex with someone who is very obviously uncomfortable with the size. Out of those 50 only 8 of them were negative experiences due to size. A few couldn’t take the length all the way without discomfort, a few didn’t want to have sex with me again because it hurt the first time (bruised cervix even though I was trying to be gentle), a few of those would continue to have sex with me even though they would bleed almost every time and are sore after, a few have expressed less desire for sex with me because they were afraid of getting “stretched out” and not be pleasurable for smaller penises, and one girl couldn’t even get it in (she was a lesbian and only had fingers before). Anal is a bit challenging with the uninitiated as well, and it’s definitely caused some bleeding in a couple partners, though I’ve had much less anal (it’s not my favorite place to put my dick…).

I’ve also had the exact opposite experience as well, where a girl can take a LOT more than I have to offer, though none of these women have expressed any disappointment with my penis, they’re just size queens. I’ve been with 5 girls who were into fisting and large toys (which I’m super into…). Even though every one of these women can take my entire fist (I’m 6’1” and have pretty big hands), they all had no problem having an orgasm on my cock alone. I mention this because most of us have a nagging fear of “if she has something bigger than me, she won’t find my dick pleasurable any more”, which trust me isn’t true.

The moral of the story is that bigger isn’t always better and in some cases it’s a negative. You should get to the size YOU want to be, and find partners who also enjoy your size. Don’t stress, be happy, read the book “She Comes First”, and enjoy your sex life (and life in general).

 

[TheAce]

Even at 8x6 the major issue for me has been ensuring she is wet enough. My wife and I are both 51, so a spontaneous quickie if she is not really turned on probably won't happen without lube. But, with some lube I can get in - sometimes it takes a bit - but once in - she cums so much faster that it's unreal.

As for BJs, a couple of years ago I had a paper towel roll that I just pulled the last sheet from. I asked her if she could put the end of it in her mouth. I have a small mouth and tried demonstrating but it was a no-go. She did rather easily. The roll was 5.75" in girth, so I knew early on BJs were good until that girth. I still get them no problem but she can never get more than half of it in now,

 

[TheAce]

I didn't see this one coming - I go to the gym regularly. I don't wear really tight clothes but marginally tight. My flaccid now hangs big enough I can't hide it in sweatpants/nylong workout pants, etc.
My wife says today - "Is that what you're wearing to the gym? I can see your willie. Its hanging off to the side and is sticking out. Very noticeable. Do you have some looser pants?"

So, now I need a new set of workout clothes! lol!

 

[ricklesp50]

I am currently at 8.25 length and 6.125 girth. I found women talk to their friends which brings more opportunities!!!

Lots say oh i cant handle that!! BUT ALL SEEM TO WANT TO TRY!!!!! Nothing looks hotter that a woman mouth expanded beyond the norm engulfing your manhood!!