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Measurement Results:

5/25/20
- BPEL: 5.1" ...... MEG: 4.1" ...... BEG: 4.2"(estimated)
6/22/20 - BPEL: 5.55" .... MEG: 4.2"
7/22/20 - BPEL: 5.625" .. MEG: 4.25" ..... BEG: 4.5" .... BPFSL: 5.4"
9/21/20 - BPEL: 5.85" .... MEG: 4.25" ..... BEG: 4.5" .... BPFSL: 5.7"
10/19/20 - BPEL: 6.0" .... MEG: 4.25" ..... BEG: 4.5" .... BPFSL: 6.05"
11/19/20 - BPEL: 6.05" .. MEG: 4.25" ..... BEG: 4.5" .... BPFSL: 6.0"
1 month rest due to injury.
1/9/21 - BPEL: 5.9" ........ MEG: 4.2" ....... BEG: 4.5" .... BPFSL: N/A
1 week rest after ~3.5 weeks of PE.
2/11/21 - BPEL: 6.125" .. MEG: 4.25" ..... BEG: 4.5" .... BPFSL: 6.05"
3/10/21 - BPEL: 6.125" .. MEG: 4.375" ... BEG: 4.5" .... BPFSL: 6.05"
4/12/21 - BPEL: 6.25" .. MEG: 4.375" ... BEG: 4.5" .... BPFSL: 6.25"
6/6/21 - BPEL: 6.25" .. MEG: 4.375" ... BEG: 4.5" .... BPFSL: 6.25" (1 YEAR RESULTS)

2 month break, then on and off with no set routine until September.
10/15/21 - BPEL: 6.25" .. MEG: 4.5" ... BEG: 4.625" .... BPFSL: 6.375"
8/14/22 - BPEL: 6.375" .. MEG: 4.375" ... BEG: 4.5" .... BPFSL: N/A
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Original Thread:
"This looks like a torture device..."

The idea of wearing it on my penis made my balls shrivel...

But I was already committed.

But not committed enough to put it on before doing a bit more research... And yes, I purchased it with only a bit of research because of hope and foolishness.

I stumbled upon this forum while doing my research and the wealth of knowledge in here blew my mind... I paid $99 for (admittedly not a completely terrible book on PE), but it's not something I would have ever bought if I found this forum first.

This forum made me realize that not only was PE (enlargement) was possible, but that PE (premature ejaculation) could be fixed.

I've done kegels on and off for the past 4 years and I've had streaks of 90+ days of 3x exercising per day... But I would often cum as quickly as 10 seconds during sex & within 30-60 seconds while watching porn. (Reverse kegels made this worse!)

After doing more research, some of the methods between the PEs overlapped (edging, stretching, ballooning), & I live alone & can carve out plenty of time so I figured why not tackle both PEs at once!

I was going to keep this journey private, but I've seen some progress already so I figured I might as well document it to inspire & help others as the legends before me have inspired me.

Starting measurements:
BPEL: 5.1" (generous & maxed out). More like 5'0 when not fully kegeling and maxing out.
MEG: 4.1" (same as above).


While I believe in the power of PE, I wanted to provide some bias to my initial measurements in the same way that GetingBig did, so that when I see results, I can know for sure that they're real results.

The workout plan:

For enlargement:
My original plan was to just wear SizeGenetics daily & slowly build up to wearing it ~4-6 hours a day, but this forum changed my mind...

I read the top performers list & almost all of them got their gains through manual means.

While waiting for my ADS to come, I started doing some manual work based on JP90 to prepare my little guy.

Once the device came, I started using it, but it's a lot more tight and uncomfortable than I thought and it's taking my penis a while to get used to it.

I decided using only the device isn't the best option so I'm now using it for bonus gains & to condition myself so I might be able to wear it for longer later. (Current max is 4 hours in 1 day, but the area under my head wasn't too happy with that.)

Current workout is: (5 on, 2 off)
  • Warmup (went 3 weeks without it, but just added it, pls don't kill me)
  • Multi-angle stretching (5-10 minutes)
  • ~10 minutes of jelquing
  • Edging to PONR without focusing too much on how long it takes. (Read this in someone's journey, but forget who it was. Maybe Purple?)
  • SizeGenetics in 60 minute intervals 1-2x/day. (Goal here is to get used to it, not get any huge gains.)

For Early Ejac:
  • 3-5 reverse kegels every time I finish peeing
  • Started fixing my APT (Years of running sprints in track & lifting actually made it worse)
  • Reverse kegels whenever I think about it
  • Edging to PONR
  • Hindu Squats

Starting Date: May 25th, 2020
In the ~2.5 weeks since I've started I've already felt/seen some results that mainly seem to have come from improved EQ, but I'm still hopeful. I measured a couple times & I'm hitting 5.5' in BPEL already when fully maxed out, but this could of course be due to heat, improved EQ, and wishful thinking.

Will measure monthly & see what the progress is. Everyone hopes to be a fast gainer, but the process is where it's at. I've learned that at the gym the hard way. (I know... I know... This analogy is overused & not true.)

Week 1:
  • 2x per day 1 min stretches + ~10 jelqs per day
  • 2 hours total using SG
  • 1 rest day
Week 2:
  • Put in a total of 10 hours w/SG & did some stretches daily, but decided to change.
  • Morning stretches + 10 mins of jelqs + ~1 hour of SG/day

Goals:
3 months
  • 5.6" BPEL- Based on my current progress, amount of time dedicated, & obsessiveness, this seems like a reasonable goal. It goes against the "averagely" documented gains, but we'll see.
  • 4.3" MEG - I know girth is harder to gain, & I want to focus on length first, but I'm sure there will be some girth improvements
1 year:
  • 6.1" BPEL
  • 4.8" MEG
Ultimate Goal:

    • 7" BPEL
    • 5.5" MEG

Question: Are the girth goals even possible? I'd have to get into the top-performers list just to have a pretty average girth as that would be nearly a 1.5" gain. :/
 
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6/11

Solid workout today. Read up on the TGC theory & considering implementing it into my process.

  • 10 minutes stretching
  • 15 minutes Jelquing (Getting better at these and doing them lighter. When I started I read that they're supposed to feel like "marbles going down your urethra" so was doing them way too hard)
  • 5 minutes V Jelq
  • 5 min Jelq
  • ~10 min edge (I don't time these)
  • 1 hour SG in the evening

The hardest thing so far seems to be not going too hard too early. I looked at some people who were doing 2 a day & up to 30 minutes of jelquing & I want to do more to progress faster, but it doesn't seem like it works like that as soon as you're in that golden middle of doing just enough.

SG is feeling more comfortable and I stopped using the "comfort pad," but I got some dry skin and peeling skin where it comes in contact under my head. No pain or strong discomfort though, so probably not too bad.

Will take a look tomorrow.
 

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Just took off the SG & there's some pain & discomfort in my ligaments. Not something I've previously experienced so will take the day off tomorrow. Will take a look at PIs in 2 days and see if it's safe to continue.
 

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6/12

Good PIs today. Morning wood & feeling good.

Had a really strong urge to workout, but did RKs and body stretches instead. I'll let the little guy rest.

Did HIIT outside for an hour. Took in the sun for that sweet, sweet testosterone and faster healing.

keep a healthy lifestyle & just like PE will be something I do for life, so is exercise and eating healthily.

I'm not a health freak, but Iift 3x/week and have recently added HIIT to get rid of some of the bulking fat I've put on over the winter. I've eaten mostly healthily my entire life, but have started eating a lot more steak/meat and veggies to improve my overall health about a year ago.

If you're on this website & dedicated to PE, you're probably already trying to improve in all other areas of your life, but if you're not, I urge you to consider how those areas of life will improve your PE (& everything else about your life.)

More muscle + healthier eating + vitamin D = more confidence, better EQ, more energy, etc.

I saw a great example of this in Burrito's log. He got some incredible PE gains but still had a ~1.5" difference between NBPEL and BPEL due to his fat pad. He then committed to a weight loss program and posted some great progress. Kudos to him.

If you're doing PE because you think it will make you more confident, want to be you best self, or you just want it to look better, then wouldn't diet & exercise do the same thing?
 

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Nice work, keep it up!
I'm not sure if you measure gains in terms of volume, but doing so can be a huge confidence booster, even with minor improvements in EL & GL.
Also, volume is directly correlated with the sensation that you can provide for your future partner(s) and girth gains provide significantly more volume than length gains (per " gained).
 
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Nice work, keep it up!
I'm not sure if you measure gains in terms of volume, but doing so can be a huge confidence booster, even with minor improvements in EL & GL.
Also, volume is directly correlated with the sensation that you can provide for your future partner(s) and girth gains provide significantly more volume than length gains (per " gained).

Hmm, I saw that before (maybe even on your progress thread? I've read too many at this point...) but didn't think much of it. Seems like a good way to focus on more visible/useful improvements rather than becoming obsessed over length. I'll start keeping track of that next time I measure!
 

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6/13

Back to my workout. 2 on 1 off might be the way to go, at least for now.

Workout felt good today. Edging was a bit weak & hit PONR pretty quickly, but that's fine. (I go 3 days of edging without a release, and a release on the fourth day so got 1 more day to go.)

Extension:
* 10 minute warmup w/ rice sock. Still learning how long to heat it for. A bit too hot at the beginning... lol
* 6 min multidirectional stretch
* 10 minute JQ
* 5 min VJQ (Struggled to stay in the right erection % for these. Got me way too excited so had to cool off multiple times.)
* 5 min JQ
* ~5-10 minutes edging. (This time was with porn, but it brings be to PONR too quickly so will cut out porn for a bit.)
* Stretches for APT
* 50 RKs (Still not sure if I'm feeling them in the right spot, but we'll see. I feel some of it at the very bottom of my abdomen which makes me think I'm stretching lower abs and not the needed muscles)
* 1 hour SG

Notes:
* Realized I was wearing the SG way too tight and way too extended before. Decreased the tightness on the head & made the stretch just a tiny bit uncomfortable & it worked well for my first session.
* Tried to do another SG session later and apparently I still don't have it all figured out... The head just slips out if the loop isn't 100% tight, but if it's that tight then my head starts turning purple within 30 minutes.
* Tried to RK during edging to decrease my level of excitement/get rid of IKs, but if I do them too lightly I don't feel anything, and if I do them strong enough to feel something, a bit of pee comes out even if I'm completely hard. WTF?
* Still have very strong IKs when edging, especially with visual stimulation. When it's all in my head, the IKs are less because the arousal level is less I assume.
 

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* 10 minute warmup
* 6 min multidirectional stretch
* 10 minute JQ
* 5 min VJQ
* 5 min JQ
* 10-15 minutes edging w/ release at the end
* 50 RKs (Still not sure if I'm feeling them in the right spot, but we'll see. I feel some of it at the very bottom of my abdomen which makes me think I'm stretching lower abs and not the needed muscles)
* 1 hour SG. Will keep trying to figure out the best way to use it as my limit seems to be the tunica & not the smooth muscle.

Rest day tomorrow. Tomorrow marks the 3 week period since I started PE.

Will measure in 1 week after a rest day. Definitely feel like I have some gains, but we'll see.
 

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6/16

* 10 minute warmup
* 6 min multidirectional stretch
* 10 minute JQ
* 5 min VJQ
* 5 min JQ
* 10-15 minutes edging. Reached PONR multiple times. No release.
* 50 RKs (Still not sure if I'm feeling them in the right spot, but we'll see. I feel some of it at the very bottom of my abdomen which makes me think I'm stretching lower abs and not the needed muscles)
* 2 hours SG.(Might have figured out a way to better to attach it. Will see)

Thoughts:
* This workout takes a while. While I have time right now, I know the biggest problem with newbies (in the fitness world at least) is trying to do too much & too often. I know I won't be able to sustain this for a year, or even 3 months due to other commitments, things re-opening after covid, etc so I'm trying to think of the best way to change my plan to still encompass both PE & PE.
* SG is definitely much less time-intensive, but I'm unable to wear it for long enough every day. Will try to figure out how to fix this issue because simply wearing the SG daily for 4-6 hours a day is much easier than having to dedicate 1 hour to the PE session. (On days when I lift, I spent almost 3 hours "exercising." 1 hour lifting, 1 hour enjoying the sun/running/ 1 hour PE. In the short-term that's fine, but I can't maintain that long-term.)
* Apparently I've been wearing the SG a bit wrong. Read Burrito's QE comfort thread & will try some new things tomorrow.
* Based on the TGC theory, I should be focusing on my tunica more anyway which is extension exercises.

I've seen people get results with both so I'm probably overthinking. I think I'll keep doing what I'm doing to condition my penis for at least another week & then try to transition mostly to SG with mild manual work.
 

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Lasted longer today! (Autosave broke my last post, so I'll keep it short.)

Usually I last 10-30 seconds. Today was a comfortable 2-3 minutes with on and off grinding/making out for 2 hours beforehand & me being on the bring of cumming after grinding. (Last time I had sex w/ her was about a week ago, and I was a two pump chump)

RKs help. Pelvic floor balancing helps. Working on fixing APT may have helped. Whatever it is, it's working!

She didn't comment on my potentially increased size, but it's not significant enough to feel.

Tomorrow's a rest day, but this progress is definitely great to see!
 
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Lasted longer during sex!

Had sex for the second time since seriously starting PE. Last time was quick as usual (two pump chump isn't just a phrase lmao), but this time I was able to last for about 2-3 minutes! I wasn't counting, but compared to my usual 10-30 seconds it's a big step in the right direction.

I expected it to be much worse because usually I have on and off boners for ~2 hours before we have sex (movies, making out, etc), so by the time we get to sex my little guy is gassed & max aroused.

This time though I used RKs throughout & was able to come back from feeling like I was almost going to cum while grinding to a normal state where I was able to last 2 mins.

The buildup took longer than usual, but once I got close to PONR I didn't think about anything else & let myself go off the cliff. If I was more aware, definitely could have brought myself back.

No comments on the potentially increased length/girth but even if it has increased, it's not significant enough to write home about.

Tomorrow's a rest day & then back to tugging! This progress definitely made me very happy, especially since I wasn't planning on testing myself for a while.
 

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6/19
* 10 minute warmup
* 6 min multidirectional stretch
* 10 minute JQ
* 5 min VJQ
* 5 min JQ
* 10-15 minutes edging. Reached PONR multiple times. No release.
* 50 RKs - Feeling them better
* 2 hours SG - The new attachment feels better! Going to start doing 3 hours after the next measurement.


Thoughts:
* Excited about measuring day. Looked strong today. Loving the newbie gains. I've done a couple of "cheat measurements" and I'd say my estimate is around 5.5" or so. Will confirm in 3 days.
 

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6/20
* 10 minute warmup
* 6 min multidirectional stretch
* 10 minute JQ
* 5 min VJQ
* 5 min JQ
* 10-15 minutes edging. Reached PONR multiple times. Accidentally ended up cumming. Whoops.
* 50 RKs - Feeling them better
* 2 hours SG - The new attachment feels better! Going to start doing 3 hours after the next measurement.
 

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6/22 - MEASUREMENT DAY
BPEL: 5.55" "relaxed boner". 5.7" fully kegeled (Previously 5.1")
MEG: 4.2" "relaxed boner". 4.25" fully kegeled (Previously 4.1")
Volume: 8.28 in^2 . (Previously 6.77 in^2) Formula: (Pi * BPEL * (MEG/2pi)^2

The first measurements I got were fully kegeled, but I'll use the "relaxed" boner measurements to make sure I'm not disappointing myself and over-estimating my gains.

Loving the newbie gains! I've had great EQ beforehand, but even if 25% of the gains are EQ gains, that's still a solid .45-.6" in a month! It's hard not to keep my hopes up about fast progress in the future (Everyone wants to be Big Al) but I realize the newbie gains will be done soon if they're not already and I likely have a long road ahead of me.

Either way, I planned on doing this for at least a year consistently to fully cement my gains, and then drop down to an easy maintenance routine.

For now I'll keep doing my program as previously & measure every month or so. Both measurements still need lots of work, but girth especially as it's still way under the average.
 

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6/22
* 10 minute warmup
* Forgot the stretch, lol
* 10 minute JQ
* 5 min VJQ
* 5 min JQ
* 10-15 minutes edging. Reached PONR multiple times. No release.
* RKs throughout the day - have been somewhat slacking on these
* APT correction exercises/stretches + lots of sun
* 3 hours SG




Thoughts:
* Barely squeezed in 3 hours of SG today. Lots of Zoom calls so didn't want to mess w/ the SGthen and the first time I could put it on was ~7. Managed to get 3 hours with ~5-10 minute breaks in between.
* 4 hours a day on most days shouldn't be too hard. 2 hours in the morning, 2 in the evening. Don't want to go up too quickly & get an injury.
* For SG I've been doing 1 hour on, 10 minutes off, but I also decrease the stretch/pull for about a minute halfway through and pull/massage the head to get more blood into it just in case. Figured I might as well do it if I'm home and can do it.
 

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Congrats on the Gains WaterBottle!
 

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Congrats on the Gains WaterBottle!
Thank you! Very happy with the gains so far, seems like you've had similar games before you started your log also :D
 

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6/22
* 10 minute warmup
* 2 min multidirectional stretch. (I'm doing more SG daily & not feeling IKs from this anymore so doing the bare minimum here)
* 10 minute JQ
* 5 min VJQ
* 5 min JQ
* 20-25 minutes edging. Reached PONR multiple times. Accidental release
* RKs throughout the day
* APT correction exercises/stretches
* 4 hours SG - Not too difficult, although I do wear it with my pants down as that's the most comfortable way to do so. I'll still be working remotely for the next couple months so that makes it easier, but once the office becomes mandatory this might get annoying.


Thoughts:
* How in the world can people get in 6-8 hours per day with this? I understand I'm still only ~2 weeks into wearing it, but wearing it for that long seems absurd. I'm getting quicker w/ putting it on and taking it off, but wearing it for >half of my awake hours seems crazy.
* I get tons of sleep every night & nap anytime I feel tired. Some days this means I sleep for 8 hours. Other days (usually the day after a hard lifting session & track session) I sleep for ~9.5-10 hours at night & then for an extra 20 min - 1.5 hours during the day. Most days I get ~9 hours, but I think this helps my recovery.
* The gains are still there & I think it's a solid mix of EQ gains, more relaxed pelvic floor, and some "real" PE gains? My pelvic floor was ridiculously tight so I think .1 or .2" from that would make sense with ~.1" coming from EQ gains & the rest from "real" PE?

Supplements
Thought this might be useful for future reference. Don't know if this affects recovery/growth directly, but can affect Testosterone levels which can affect recovery & general health.

Before I started the journey I've been taking the following daily:
* Fish oil
* Vitamin D (2k-4k IU daily)
* Turmeric
* Zing & Magnesium in the evenings

About a week ago I've added:
* L-arginine
* L-lysine
 

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Speed of PE & Other Body Parts Growth?

It's too early to tell, but so far my PE progress has been pretty fast & looking at other logs there are some (like MadYogi or Big Al) who grow like crazy, and others who grow much slower.

This can of course depend on a multitude of factors like:


  • Testosterone & stress levels
  • Tunica VS smooth muscle
  • Over or undertraining
  • Genetic potential
  • etc, etc

I know the muscle growth & PE growth connection has been debunked, but what about the connection between PE & speed of growth of something like nails or hair?

My nails grow ridiculously fast (which according to a NYT article also depends on multitude of factors like blood flow, the season, age, sex, etc)

This makes me wonder: is speed of your nail growth a potential indicator of how fast you'll progress in PE? Obviously they're different, & PE requires more complex structures to grow, but they're both affected by stress levels, blood flow, etc.

(Rest day today)
 

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* 10 minute warmup
* 2 min multidirectional stretch. (I'm doing more SG daily & not feeling IKs from this anymore so doing the bare minimum here)
* 10 minute JQ
* 5 min VJQ
* 5 min JQ
* 20-25 minutes edging. Reached PONR multiple times. No release
* RKs throughout the day
* APT correction exercises/stretches
* 2 hours SG - Pulled too hard on the first hour so decided to play it safe.




Thoughts:
* Flaccid hang much lower yesterday and this morning. I didn't measure it before and it still varies largely, but the past 2 days it was nearly twice what it usually was (it was almost non-existent before)
* Looks like attacking the tunica to start with was the right decision and since I'm also doing some jelqs and V jelqs, hypothetically I should be gaining in both.
* I've been sitting with the SG facing forward for most of my stretches. Tried putting it up today and felt some stretch(although it went away pretty fast in the bottom of the penis.) Looks like only having it facing front might not be stretching that area as much thus stretching it both facing up and down might be useful.
* I'm not getting the strongest stretch with the SG yet (it's not even hitting the first "mark" yet) but it's enough to where I feel it which is all I need for now. Don't want to go too hard too early. Will keep going for ~3-4 hours per day for the next 2-4 weeks and then see if I can jump up to 6 or increase the tension (or both.)
* Did some tennis ball rolls yesterday. Felt great! Will keep doing them from time to time.