My Triple Play: Pumping / Tadalafil / Delay Spray

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I seem to have put the pieces together for a successful, what I am calling, "triple play" for great sex with my wife: Pumping, taking Tadalafil, and using a delay spray.

Pumping: I am currently using a Bathmate HydroXtreme 7 once per day in the shower at least several times a week, and three times on the days I know I am having sex (morning shower, workout or before sex shower, dry pump in bed during foreplay.) I started out at 5 1/2" length and 4 1/2" girth before I bought my first pump. I am now normally 6" in length and 5 1'2" girth; and routinely am 6 1/2" length, and have been up to 7 to 7 1/8" long on occasion. My wife does not enjoyably handle anything 7" or longer, and 5 1/2" girth is her maximum ability to be able to deep throat in any position. At 6 1/2" we have discovered her ability to have intense A-spot orgasms when she is riding me cowgirl style. At my longest length when near 7" we are (carefully) trying to give her a cervix orgasm while in doggy position, but have not quite gotten her over the edge yet. The additional length and girth has made a huge difference in her enjoyment of more prolonged and fulfilling orgasms, and in our sex life in general. The increased size is a great confidence builder for me, and a huge turn-on for my wife. So my pumping has allowed me to be in a sweet spot size-wise for our maximum enjoyment.

ED Medication: I currently have a prescription for Tadalafil (Cialis) which I take on-demand a few hours, or up to a day, prior to having sex. I take a 5mg dose to help establish and maintain a serviceable erection for intercourse and receiving oral sex. That dosage lasts in my system for 30-36 hours typically, giving me the ability for additional high-quality erections for edging sessions prior to, or after, the day I have sex, and can even allow multiple erections/orgasms during the same lovemaking session - or sex two days in a row on the same pill. I have also taken a pill several days in a row as an experiment; which was approved by my doctor for short-term periods of time (like while on vacation.) A 2.5mg dosage is the typical dose for daily use. My doctor has also told me I can experiment with taking two 5mg pills (10mg total) if I feel the 5mg dosage is not effective.

Delay Spray: I was researching solutions for increased stamina, prolonging sex, and holding off on coming too soon, and started seeing suggestions for delay sprays in articles. I was very skeptical about these, and how effective they could be, and most reviews for them were only so-so. Until I found out about Promescent and read more about it. The differentiator for this spray is it is not topical like most sprays, but has a patented system developed by a doctor where the numbing agent (same as used by dentists) is absorbed deep into the skin and nervous system for effective 'blocking' of sensations. Agin, this numbing has not been extreme, but only more like taking the edge off, if that makes sense. I have tried using 3-5 sprays with great results so far. I have been applying the spray, and rubbing it in per the directions, just prior to my five minute dry pumping session during foreplay. The instructions are to let the spray absorb for ten minutes, then clean off any residue. My wife likes the visual of me pumping, and of seeing/touching how large I am when just out of the tube, so we will typically have additional foreplay for five or more minutes. When we are ready to move on to oral or PIV sex, I will take a minute to use a cloth or baby wipe to clean off the residual spray, which can be sticky sometimes. I did make the mistake of not being thorough enough in my cleaning once, where my wife started feeling her mouth going numb while giving me a blowjob, which was pretty humorous for both of us. The delay spray works really really well. You can tell you are desensitized, but not to an extreme. It holds off that quick sensation of getting to the top of the mountain, so to speak. When I don't use it I am constantly telling my wife to slow down, or be careful not to make me come when she is performing oral, or also having to stop my pace or slow down during intercourse to keep from coming too soon. Using the spray has alleviated any of those types of situations for us. I have been able to lean back and let my wife blow me with abandon which she is enjoying immensely, and taking it as a challenge! And during sex, I can now go as long as I want to, which has created these amazing sessions of prolonged lovemaking that we have never been able to do before. My wife has a very slow and very long build up to orgasm, and if I have to slow down or stop my pumping due to an imminent ejaculation, she has to basically start her climb back up her arousal ladder again. We have now been able to bring her to higher and more continuous orgasm plateaus when fucking. So much so that she recently said that I had been "fucking her brains out" these days, which is the first time she has ever used that term to describe our sex. When you can take the attention and distraction away from worrying about coming, all your focus is on the performance and enjoying how amazing sex feels... and it is extremely liberating to experience that! I feel that in some ways, for the first time in our relationship we are actually making love without anything getting in the way. It is also extremely fun to totally decide when to let go and control when you come. It is great conversation during sex to decide as a couple, with no pressure, if and when and where you want to do that and on your own terms. All because of this delay spray.

So, the combination of a larger cock, great erection quality, and the ability to control my ejaculation as long as I want, has proven to be a very successful and enjoyable and enhanced sex life for us.
 
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Hi Mpolo...

I concur with the Bathmate/ Tadalafil combo...Ive been doing that for about 2 years now and its great...I can't claim your gains, although I have gotten a little longer, which could be better erection quality...Also, I'm thicker and that was the eye opening thing whem starting the BM...It def showed me how important girth is to making your d*ck look big...

I started Tadalafil as I had a slow start or 2 a few years back...between work, young kids ect many thing become distractions and our time is limited to get it on...Initially, I started the cialis to always be ready but I feel like it is synergistic with the BM...Its pretty awesome actually...I get 10mgs and what I've been doing is cutting them in half and take 5mg sat and then another sunday...Also, I sometimes takes the full 10mgs and its good all weekend into my Monday morning bm session...another great thing with cialis is it adds to your bm training...

Aside from these things I consistently lift weights 4x per week and I worked on my staying power as well...I cut off pointless masterbation...I only jerk to get hard for the bump or I get hard for my wife...we go at it 3x per week normally and when she is having a period she blows me...When we started dating she came alot but after 8 years of marriage and 2 young boys she would only cum if I ate her out before sex or every once and awhile...fast forward the last couple years, esp 2021 if she doesn't cum on my d*ck its a major fail...I can literally feel that I'm tighter inside her....she doesn't know about pe but during most of our sex sessions she comments on how hard I am...My erections are super strong due to pumping 3-4 times per week and Tadalafil....I dont really need it but it serves as a bit of an enhancement for me...probably you don't really need it either but it sure is fun...doesn't matter if kids give us a hard time going to bed ..either way I'm ready to go at a moments notice...

Yes, the combo of this device with a little cialis along with being able to last....I can remember having less sex, lower quality and jerking off on the side....Now I don't do that and I can last longer with all of my juice waiting for my real experiences vs porn...and again. I love the feeling when I'm really hard and I can feel her tighter on me...Now my goal for 2022 is to reach new highs in the bedroom...

I have to ask what else you do for pe...You seem to pump more than me but your results are really good for just the bm...anything else involved?
 

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Hi Mpolo...

I concur with the Bathmate/ Tadalafil combo...Ive been doing that for about 2 years now and its great...I can't claim your gains, although I have gotten a little longer, which could be better erection quality...Also, I'm thicker and that was the eye opening thing whem starting the BM...It def showed me how important girth is to making your d*ck look big...

I started Tadalafil as I had a slow start or 2 a few years back...between work, young kids ect many thing become distractions and our time is limited to get it on...Initially, I started the cialis to always be ready but I feel like it is synergistic with the BM...Its pretty awesome actually...I get 10mgs and what I've been doing is cutting them in half and take 5mg sat and then another sunday...Also, I sometimes takes the full 10mgs and its good all weekend into my Monday morning bm session...another great thing with cialis is it adds to your bm training...

Aside from these things I consistently lift weights 4x per week and I worked on my staying power as well...I cut off pointless masterbation...I only jerk to get hard for the bump or I get hard for my wife...we go at it 3x per week normally and when she is having a period she blows me...When we started dating she came alot but after 8 years of marriage and 2 young boys she would only cum if I ate her out before sex or every once and awhile...fast forward the last couple years, esp 2021 if she doesn't cum on my d*ck its a major fail...I can literally feel that I'm tighter inside her....she doesn't know about pe but during most of our sex sessions she comments on how hard I am...My erections are super strong due to pumping 3-4 times per week and Tadalafil....I dont really need it but it serves as a bit of an enhancement for me...probably you don't really need it either but it sure is fun...doesn't matter if kids give us a hard time going to bed ..either way I'm ready to go at a moments notice...

Yes, the combo of this device with a little cialis along with being able to last....I can remember having less sex, lower quality and jerking off on the side....Now I don't do that and I can last longer with all of my juice waiting for my real experiences vs porn...and again. I love the feeling when I'm really hard and I can feel her tighter on me...Now my goal for 2022 is to reach new highs in the bedroom...

I have to ask what else you do for pe...You seem to pump more than me but your results are really good for just the bm...anything else involved?


I agree 100% regarding the combination of BM and Tadalafil. It works, and yes, it helps a lot with the training, and I do also feel there is a synergy. For me, once the pills effects wear off, I am basically out of luck maintaining an erection. It is very difficult. I enjoy being on the pill as I get morning wood, can get semi erect from just sexy thoughts, and get great erections when I edge. And yes, the visuals of being bigger coming out of the shower etc, the added thickness, are positives and confidence builders. And my wife also positively comments when she sees me nude and I am enlarged.

I do a lot of hiking and biking, although this past fall and winter has not been great in that regard. I also want to work on my upper body strength so intent is to add some weights of some sort into my daily exercise.

I do a lot of edging during the week, and really enjoy that. We are basically only having sex once per week or once in 7-10 days. My sex drive has diminished with age, and she is also the same in that regard. So we are trying for a really great session once per week as a goal. In preparation for that, I try to edge once per day at minimum, and some days much more. If we plan to have sex on a working day, I am trying to fit in additional edging sessions in my home office during the day. I rarely jerk off and come outside of sex, as my edging is to build up as much semen as possible for my wife. She is very turned-on by me having a copious ejaculation when we finally do make love; and in some ways expects that, and almost demands that kind of performance, from me now. It is something she likes seeing and asks for, and we consider the semen produced when I come as the physical representation of my built up desire for her, and the other women I have been fantasizing about during the week. So, I think edging a lot, semen retention, and being in the heightened state of arousal that builds up during the week, contributes to my extra size also.

She has definitely noticed the size increase and mentions how wonderful it feels to experience the more "filled up" feeling of a larger cock inside of her. The tightness feels absolutely amazing to me. She gets very excited when I am larger and she can't fit me in her mouth/throat also. And as you mentioned the additional stiffness from BM and the pill is noticeable to her; to both of us. I honestly never knew how hard, hard could be. It can be like a steel rod, and that unyielding stiffness really makes a difference when fucking.

As far as what else I do, my typical routine includes jelqing between pumping sessions (if multiple), and after each single pump session in the shower. I am also doing ball stretching and testicle jelqing as my balls tend to turtle and I am trying to get them to hang down more/further. Several times a week I add an edging session with a Fleshlight in the shower between a multiple pumping sessions also. I have a FL shower mount that I use with an extreme textured FL. This keeps the erection going after pumping and is great for stamina training. I try to edge three times in the FL, and then sometimes add a second five-minute pumping session in the shower if I have time. I think prolonging and maintaining the erection from pumping via jelqs or edging helps. I try to keep the blood in there for a while after pumping sessions.
 
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Hey once per week ain't bad when your so focused and your partner is engaged...I didn't mean to sound like some sort if animal but for me I would have a sec session and still jerk...I was always like this even going back to college...I could remember screwing this girl I would see and then rubbing one out in her bed when she went to class...My buddy said im nuts to even think of Jenkins if I'm getting off with my girl like 3 x per week...Believe it or not that never mattered for me but I will say a bit of retention is a good thing.. I dont know how old you are but im 41...I think my generation and the one after has a major porn addiction...This seems to be causing all types of issues in society at large...I will say that holding out for only sex or oral sessions plus training with BM really allows you to be a bit of a beast...Lookikg back I wish I jerked it less in my 20s as I will say that holding out makes you more of your raw natural self...Think about it...Back in ancient times men didn't jerk off by themselves watching other men plow women.. I really think that all that Jenkins takes a man's edge away..

I tried jelqing but it never really stuck...although when I did it my flaccid length seemed to have more hang...I hear some say it can cause fibrosis and since I already used the BM I never stayed consistent...I never got into manual stretching either...Lately I have been considering a hanger as many say it will give at least some length gains...I would like to gain st least a half inch in length..pretty much I would like to gain like you did...I should note that I do take finasterie 3x per week...this may have been part of the issue with those slow starts from my previous message...maybe not..

I will say that the BM makes me feel more during sex...I dont know how to describe it...I just feel more stimulated...I even enjoy watching her suck it after I had a session earlier in the day...I must ask do your notice stretching of you skin around the scrotum...I def stretched some with the bm and sometimes my balls feel bigger...I dont like that part as I feel like it takes away from my size gains...I feel like my balls had hang anyway so maybe I'm the opposite of many guys...I actually like when my balls turtle...Maybe I pumped too hard in the beginning...My balks never got sucked but its more like scrotum skin was suck into the pump with all the pressure...In any case, I like smoking this bad boy even if just for better sex...some length gains would be nice but I likely would need to at least jelq....
 

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Going on a beach vacation next month, so have decided to increase my exercise and pumping workouts until then, including being diligent about pumping at least once per day until then. I have also been experiencing headaches when I take the 5mg Tadalafil on two or more days straight; rather than just on demand prior to sex. I anticipate us trying to have sex each day while on vacation at the beach so I have asked my doctor for the 2.5mg "daily" dosage prescription for Tadalafil, to try it out. He told me to take the 5mg pill and cut it in half. I have tried doing that and these pills are small but break in half pretty cleanly using a chopper-type pill splitter. So I am on day three trying out the 2.5mg daily dosage. Results so far have been, no headache, walking up with good wood. Sexy thoughts producing an erection without manual stimulation. Really great EQ when edging. A nice thick semi-erection as a "normal" condition during the day, after working out, etc. I also just had an edging session mid-afternoon (I pumped in the shower at 6:30 this morning, nine hours prior to the edging session) and measured at a 6 1/2" erect length. I think this is a great start to my vacation prep. Having sex tonight so will pump one more time, minimum, possible two times (once after a workout shower, once during foreplay tonight) ,and will use the delay spray also. Pumping, ED med, delay spray... a great combination.
 

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Day four of taking the 2.5mg daily dosage of Tadalafil. No headache at all. Still have all of the positive benefits I have noticed so far this week since starting: morning wood, erection from thinking sexy thoughts, amazing EQ when edging, a nice think semi-erect cock under normal circumstances; obviously the meds keep blood flowing down there. All of this after having sex last night and a pretty incredible and copious ejaculation. It kind of feels like the old days. Plan is to continue taking the daily dosage until the end of the week, then go back to an on-demand dose when needed prior to sex. I will use this daily dosage regime during an upcoming week-long vacation.
 

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Yea its great but it can give you headaches if you take too much...those micro doses are probably awesome and I saw something on you tube about taking 2.5mg per day for other health reasons (heart) I believe but not sure...If you take a higher dosage it can give you lower back pain too...When I take 10mgs I'm a solid rock all weekend with almost no lead time...if I smack my wife's ass I get hard...which is great because with two small kids we have to be ready when we get our windows...well...In should say I need to be ready...
 
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I'd recommend caution when considering a daily dose of it and consider the possibility that reports of cardiovascular benefits could be connected with an underlying cardiovascular condition that was causing ED in the first place. The reason that the PED5 inhibitors cause side effects like back pain and headaches is because they lower the blood pressure and, unless you suffer from hypertension, trying to artificially lower the blood pressure has some serious negative consequences. Definitely consult with your doctor before off-label use.
 

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Good advice...I actually do try to limit this and I don't take it everyday...I agree that those sides means something so I do exercise caution...I try to use the lowest amount that gives me the result but my main concern is I didn't want to need this or depend on it, which I dont...I do admit that I'm being slightly reckless by taking it when I dont have to use it to perform..
 
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I'd recommend caution when considering a daily dose of it and consider the possibility that reports of cardiovascular benefits could be connected with an underlying cardiovascular condition that was causing ED in the first place. The reason that the PED5 inhibitors cause side effects like back pain and headaches is because they lower the blood pressure and, unless you suffer from hypertension, trying to artificially lower the blood pressure has some serious negative consequences. Definitely consult with your doctor before off-label use.

All of my experimenting has been in consultation with my doc, so he has been on board with the changes I have tried. I am on a light dosage of a hypertension drug (runs in the family), and my doctor has said that is not an issue in my case. I am always aware of it though and keep that in the back of my mind. The second half of this week I have gone to an every other day dosage of the 2.5mg dosage to see if I still have benefits. Been a crazy week at work, so my experimenting with edging, arousal, etc have been minimal to none so I do not have specific results for that dosage and frequency for me (yet.)
 
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I have been able to downshift to taking the 2.5mg "daily dose" every other day and still achieve really good results. My morning wood is at about 80%, I still get great erections for edging, and have been slightly more engorged and longer after my typical morning shower pumping session. I have been at 6 3/4" after pumping for the last few days, which is more than I am under normal pumping maintenance. So I believe the Cialis is keeping more blood in my erection. Looks great coming out of the shower and feels great. I feel so many positives and confidence building from pumping. So I am going to do 2.5mg every other day on my vacation and see how that works out. My wife and I have dedicated ourselves to having sex every day while on vacation.
 

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Excellent vacation goals! :clapping:
 
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Excellent vacation goals! :clapping:

Yes, absolutely agree. We reiterated that goal last night again, during foreplay (we did not have sex over the weekend, and I suggested we catch up last night.) But in an interesting turn, it then went in a completely opposite direction.

After my wife gave me an incredible warm-up blowjob, and getting me into an incredible heightened state of arousal, as we were talking about sex and our holiday, she paused and then told me she really wanted me to abstain from making love to her until we were on vacation in a few weeks. She said it is something she has been thinking about asking me to do for her. So as she explained, the bottom line is she is really intrigued by the idea of, and wants to experiment with, denial... and see if that changes anything in our dynamic; how it affects my motivation, day to day affection and appreciation for her, my sex drive towards her, and my performance and energy level in bed when we do finally have sex "in a few weeks". I guess she has been doing some research into this idea, haha, but made it clear there was nothing wrong with our relationship, other than what we are currently working on PE-wise, but that she really really wanted to try this idea out. An itch she wanted to scratch is one way she put it.

Totally took me by surprise, and it certainly will not be difficult for me to not have sex for that long a period (we are only about once per week normally), but as we discussed it, the idea of me having to wait it out even longer "for her" became really a turn-on for both of us. For me it is especially hot because she presented it for us to try out (her idea), and for her she said she honestly could not stop thinking about the idea of almost "demanding" me to abstain from her in that way.

So at that point, agreeing to try it out on her terms (I can't come), for me other than for some additional blowing and oral teasing from her (where she said I produced more precome in her mouth than I ever have before) I got nothing more, and I proceeded to use a dildo and orally bring her to several very nice orgasms in comparison.

So it appears it will be famine for awhile, and then a feast for me, haha. We are both excited about this.
 

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I have been keeping track of my measurements daily while trying the half-dose of Cialis every other day. The Cialis is definitely contributing to my enlargement. I end up taking the dose in the morning after my shower and pumping session. On the mornings the day after I take the dose I am averaging about 1/4" more in length; or 6 3/4"+. My measurements the day I am taking the dose (just prior to taking the pill), I am steadily at 6 1/2"+. Since I have been pumping on a more regular and more frequent basis these last few weeks, I am also seeing an increase in length for that constant working out, so often between 1/16 and 1/8 inch longer by eye over this last week (thus the + sign.) I am only pumping once per day for five minutes in the shower. As I prep for vacation I am going to do a workout at night and have a second five minute pumping session in the shower. In the past when I steadily did two or three pumping sessions per day, I was able to reach 7" and 7 1/8" on occasion; with substantial girth increases at that length.