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I pulled off my first real "number close" (Pick Up Artistry thing..)!!!

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Today, a really hot girl spoke to me at school...we ended up having an amazing conversation for a good 20 minutes. She was really excited to finally speak to me (we have been making eye contact for weeks now but we havent spoken to each other until today)...After biology class, she said: "Did you already have this class last semester? I said: No, why?.. She said: Well everytime the teacher asks the class a question, you always answer the questions correctly. How come? Me: Well...I just love science"...

Okay so the game is on. I am suddenly pretty nervous but I got a grip on my emotions quickly. I think I became slightly red in color, but I was able to contain myself by taking control of the conversation immediately. I started by eliciting her values (NLP term..used in pick up artistry), here's how it works: we spoke about our science classes and how we both wanted to study medicine (points in common and things that she LOVES to talk about)...she said that she wanted to become a pediatrician...I told her about my volunteering at the pediatric hospital and how I loved kids. This type of conversation elicits happy emotions within her. (I'm not a professional yet..but I was supposed to ''anchor'' these feelings by giving her a little object [such as a hair clip] that would remind her of me and it would bring up those good emotions everytime she has the object in her hands...but that comes later on in life :p). So basically I was making her feel great by talking about the things she likes and proving to her that I love the same things.

Pretty quickly, she became very ''kino'' with me, which means that she got physical (touching my elbow every now and then, poking me while she laughs, etc). She couldnt keep her eyes off me..she had a huge smile on her face throughout the conversation. I then proceeded to ''negging'' her..which is to give her a negative compliment to lower her self confidence and to make her more ''shy'' so that I can further have control over her (sounds mean, I know). I said: Do you bite your nails, because they are chipped?..She got slightly red in the face and said: I didnt have time to do my nails today...then I said: haha it's okay, your hair compensates for it...She replied with a shy: ''thanks'' and a very sincere giggle...


I then proceeded to asking her if she liked my shirt (I was wearing a black long sleeve undershirt with a pink tee-shirt over it, looks great)..She said that she loved it and that pink suits me very well. She then adjusted my shirt (which did not need adjusting, lol). Then I asked her if she wanted to hang out this weekend...she said yes, but that she couldnt hang out this weekend because she was going to ottawa to see her grandma...so I asked for her phone number and she gave it to me really quickly (like she was expecting it).

She has a FANTASTIC personality and she's smoking hot (she is all natural golden blond with bright blue eyes and nice pink lips...she's really tall and has BIG boobs and a nice ass. She's a smoking 9/10..lots of the guys at school want her.). I see myself having some interesting future endeavors with her :D. Might I add that during the entire conversation, my heart rate was up (adrenaline rush) because I was ACTUALLY pulling off pick up artistry and NLP...it was going so perfect. Damn I feel good about myself.

I gotta admit though that this entire process is so much easier to pull off if the girl is actually interested by you, which is what happened in my case. Also, the fact that she loves science is the only thing that made it possible for me to elicit her values. A real pick up artist has to make the first move and find things out about her ON THE SPOT because pick up artists approach in bars/clubs and on the street. They are the real pros!

And here's another observation:
I came home from school, watched some olympics (GO CANADA GO! lol) and then I proceeded to jerking off. 20 minutes after I came, I suddenly became..uncertain of my situation with this girl. Feels like the confidence I had earlier is much weaker now. I jerked off, so I am not horny anymore...this slight hornyness is what kept me going with the girl. Testosterone is REALLY good. The fact that I just released my T through an ejaculation made me suddenly less confident.

If you have low confidence, I urge you to STOP masturbating and stop watching porn. Porn sucks. Daily masturbation sucks too. Hold your load in, let the T build up and see if your confidence goes up!

Thanks for reading. I hope to pull off many more number closes!
 

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Top stuff man, feels pretty good doesn't it!
 

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Nice bro,real nice,you got yourself a nice blondy eh,wicked stuff.
And I also agree with you that after busting a nut you feel less confident,its pretty wierd but i guess its normal cuase of the sudden drop in T levels.
 

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Glad to hear you finally talked to her! Congrats dude.

LOL I WISH.

That is another girl altogether...

Im gonna try and talk to her tomorrow. And she's friends with the blondie lol
 

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LOL I WISH.

And she's friends with the blondie lol
Haha, be carful with that one dude, Ive tried gettin with two girls that were friends and it didnt end so well, lol.
 

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Hmmm! What did I tell you! Now go have fun and don't stress about it. If it works, fine. If not, there's another bus coming down the street in 10 minutes!
 
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I use to practice PUA before, just kiss-closed a couple of times. Although I found myself kind of acting, I didn't feel that person was me. Do u have the same problem radiohead? (I have read about NLP, and know what is about)
 

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Radio, I have no problem with guys learning pick-up skills online, especially if it helps you have confidence in meeting new girls and getting to know them. But please don't go overboard and let it mess with who you are. Be yourself and be true to yourself, and you'll do great with the ladies. Don't say or do things that don't feel right -- being intentionally mean, for example -- and you'll end up in a better place. "The ends justify the means" is not true if you end up feeling like an imposter!
 

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Radio, I have no problem with guys learning pick-up skills online, especially if it helps you have confidence in meeting new girls and getting to know them. But please don't go overboard and let it mess with who you are. Be yourself and be true to yourself, and you'll do great with the ladies. Don't say or do things that don't feel right -- being intentionally mean, for example -- and you'll end up in a better place. "The ends justify the means" is not true if you end up feeling like an imposter!

I completely agree with your perspective batwoman. But PUA does have some convincing points, which are true. If I could summon it up in a couple of words it would be: get more confident and kill the nice guy inside of you (lets be frank.. no girls hook up with the nice guy, which is completely true)
 

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thats a lot of mind games imo to much complication for me lo everyone to ther own tho, she sounds pretty hotgood luck ;),


also with the cumming then feeling less confident i think it happens to all men as you said cos of t, its not so much confidence but more of a dont want it or them or that for me personaly
 

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I completely agree with your perspective batwoman. But PUA does have some convincing points, which are true. If I could summon it up in a couple of words it would be: get more confident and kill the nice guy inside of you (lets be frank.. no girls hook up with the nice guy, which is completely true)
Wow, what a sad and cynical way to view women and sex. I hope you don't believe it.

If "hook up" to you means casual meaningless sex, well, I suppose that killing the nice guy inside you might be a way to get some. Forever. Let's see, some of the guys here are in their 70s and still having lots of happy sex.... so if you go down the path of becoming an a-hole to get sex when you're 20, that means at 50 years or so of meaningless relationships sculpted by your cool manipulative skills. That sounds just SO attractive.

I have nothing against learning ways to talk to women better and gaining confidence -- that's great. But purposefully becoming a creep to get girls? That sounds downright pathetic to me.
 

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Personally I don't do and PUA stuff Im just funny so talking to girls is easy for me. However, it definatly works, for whatever reason many 20-30 year old women respond to being a dick. Maybe not respond in the sense of having a long lasting relationship, but in getting some it defiantly works.
 

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Wow, what a sad and cynical way to view women and sex. I hope you don't believe it.

If "hook up" to you means casual meaningless sex, well, I suppose that killing the nice guy inside you might be a way to get some. Forever. Let's see, some of the guys here are in their 70s and still having lots of happy sex.... so if you go down the path of becoming an a-hole to get sex when you're 20, that means at 50 years or so of meaningless relationships sculpted by your cool manipulative skills. That sounds just SO attractive.

I have nothing against learning ways to talk to women better and gaining confidence -- that's great. But purposefully becoming a creep to get girls? That sounds downright pathetic to me.

Some guys need these skills in order to succeed with women. I'm not defending them...I think they should look at it in another way.

Most guys, like 90% of the guys put women/girls on this pedestal of greatness. This is their downfall, because this causes them to be nervous and value themselves lower than these women. You should never value yourself lower than any girl. Go up to any girl and just talk to her and never think 'omg she is so hot, i'm not good enough for her'.

Dont always listen to these pick-artists, like that david deangelo, he has some points, but "Kill the boy inside you", that is just bullcrap. Girls like it when you're fun and they also just wanna have fun.
 

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Pick-up artistry is a beautiful thing, but in my experience, there at least two roads on the long-run for the ''artist''. One is to become increasingly narcissistic and self-conscious, eternally trusting in a set of artificial skills and ignoring the fact that your interlocutor is an human being. The other is to use the techniques to help to be in touch with its own real and solid confidence, which almost invariably is built upon your values, your integrity, and your sense of union with your partner.

In my view, the first is a path to auto-destruction, the second to auto-realization.

But anyway, congratulations man!
 

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Wow, what a sad and cynical way to view women and sex. I hope you don't believe it.

If "hook up" to you means casual meaningless sex, well, I suppose that killing the nice guy inside you might be a way to get some. Forever. Let's see, some of the guys here are in their 70s and still having lots of happy sex.... so if you go down the path of becoming an a-hole to get sex when you're 20, that means at 50 years or so of meaningless relationships sculpted by your cool manipulative skills. That sounds just SO attractive.

I have nothing against learning ways to talk to women better and gaining confidence -- that's great. But purposefully becoming a creep to get girls? That sounds downright pathetic to me.

Seconded. I wonder how many guys who "kill the nice guy inside them" have happy, meaningful relationships. How many of them do you think wind up with STDs or unwanted pregnancies? It's a shame people view this as art.

Sex should mean something to both partners.
 

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Best wishes to you and your new girlfriend.
 
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good for you, me an my buddy are novice PUAs an we go sarging often now, ive kinda always had the cocky funny approuch anyway but now ive been adding more styles to my game. its fun for me, i have a girlfriend but its just good social excercise an i open about 5 sets a day just to stay sharp but i never close cuz thats almost cheating an i love my lady but good for you with the sarging an goodluck
 

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It feels like I always end up sparking up some sort of argument whenever I post something, lol. Some people are against PUA, which is fine. I only use PUA to make the first contact and to meet the girl. Once we are introduced, I'm just myself from that point on. This girl and I have been talking quite a bit and she's really nice. I dont even feel like having sex with her that much. I'm happy with being her friend. I'm slowing working my way to talking to the girl that I have had a crush on for months now..It's happening slowly. I went to see my teacher and asked her to put me in the same team as the girl I have a kick on (for a midterm team project). We had very nice eye contact today, she smiled at me and I smiled back. We're both just trying to find an excuse to speak to each other. I will pull off some PUA on her for the first contact and it will be a really cool experience. I understand that some people have their differences but I see PUA as being a very useful tool. It's not a life style, but a tool to be used occasionally.