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Discovered something potentially important while edging

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Is there a TLDR version of your post. I tried to read, but got lost about 3/4 of the way through.
 

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This post will be a long post but hear me out and please test this yourself and report back if you can.

So in my other thread I mentioned that 2 nights ago I had my best edging session yet. Went for almost an hour with aggressive hand stimulation while watching porn (only hit PONR once), and then used my fleshlight at the end and had total control, whereas normally I would PONR within a minute using it.

Since it would make sense that I'd last longer in the FL after an hour of intense edging due to the desensitization, yesterday I decided to try starting out with the FL instead when my dick was still fully sensitized. Inserted, and disappointingly I PONR'd within a minute. Damn. I started really thinking about why exactly this would be since I can stimulate myself very aggressively on my biggest "hot spots" using my hands and tons of lube and still be in control. Maybe it was the thrusting motion, or maybe the FL was stimulating my dick in some way that my hands weren't replicating.

I then realized that when I use the FL, the orgasmic feelings always seem to rush right to the very tip of my dick. It just all concentrates there, and fighting it off is impossible. I then took a look at my usual edging/ballooning technique and noticed that every area of my dick was being stimulated, but one area was being neglected - for lack of a better term, it was the glans area around the peehole, particularly on the top side just below it. When looking at the fleshlight, I realized that the grooves inside would in fact be rubbing against this area. I then also remembered some old threads from JamesMonroe, another member who cured himself with edging/deathgrip and said his most sensitive spot was this same area.

So today I tried an experiment. I started off by stimulating this area only for about 10 minutes, mostly by holding my dick with one hand and then moving the palm of my other hand in a circular motion on it while compressing the head very slightly. Turns out this is indeed the most "sensitive" area of the dick, but in a different way. Unlike the frenulum or below the glans, it is not pleasurable to rub. It's actually quite uncomfortable and produces somewhat of a "squeamish" feeling for me. I believe this is because it stimulates the urethral nerve. I also took a soft couch pillow that has some grooves in it and just rubbed the area back and forth over it a bit. Some other observations about it, at least that I can speak for in my case:

- The stronger the erection, the more sensitive it is. When flaccid it isn't really sensitive at all.

- The best way to stimulate it is neither dry nor fully lubed, but somewhere in between. I apply a bit of lube, then wipe some off and find the consistency that makes it most sensitive.

- This is strange, but when I stimulate this area while standing up, it produces a VERY odd feeling throughout the entire body unlike any other area of the penis. It's like a jolt of energy that travels up to my head, and interestingly, through my pelvic area and right into my lower back at the base of my spine. I don't know if there is a connection, but the nerves at the base of the spine are responsible for controlling the ejaculatory reflex.

It takes experimentation to find the motions that hit the area in the way I'm talking about, but you'll know when you have because it's very intense, and again, fairly uncomfortable. There's something about being fully erect, half lubed and using circular motions that just sets it off.

Anyway, after I had worked this area for 10 minutes to desensitize it a bit (not touching anything else), I fully lubed up, put on some arousing porn, and inserted into the fleshlight. The result? Total control. That orgasmic rush to the tip of my dick that always comes barreling in just never happened, and I was able to keep thrusting hard and fast without any issue. I didn't even have to concentrate or make any effort to control myself. I tried all kinds of thrusting motions, dirty thoughts, even kegel'd a bit, still nothing. Got down in missionary which usually sets me off almost instantly - still nothing. Wow.

So, unless it was a fluke (always a possibility) it seems that there really is something to this area of the dick. Stimulating it seems to somehow block the ejaculatory response. I'm going to add this to my edging routine and see how it goes - I was also thinking that maybe this could even be used prior to sex as a way of delaying ejaculation.

My final thought on this is that it seems PE can be treated via physical methods more than I had realized. I definitely do believe that chemical/psychological factors are highly important, but my experience so far seems to indicate that the right physical methods can still override it. Regardless of how mentally aroused or anxious you might be, if the physical nerves that control ejaculation are firing less powerfully, ejaculation can still be delayed.

(Or, the other possibility is that I'm completely wrong about this and it was just a fluke, which is why I'd encourage some other members to try this out. Stimulate the area of the glans around the peehole until you can replicate that uncomfortable "jolt" it produces - go about 10 minutes - and then use your fleshlight or hand and see if it makes any difference.)


Yes, ahaha, that was long and to read and I too got lost. Got there in the end so my reply may also not be short..

So as I just finished a 20-25minute squat. I then literally came across this post and decided to give it a try. Already I was at some advantage due to the hindi.

I have always said to my self the head is the culprit! So I fully understand where you are coming from. Hence, I decided to try this out just now:

Instead of how you mentioned one hand holding the erected penis and the other palm rubbing around the pee hole, I used only one hand in total. My right hand held my penis and used my thumb to stimulate my pee hole area. (Kind of the way you use a lighter lol)

Went at this for 10mins with mod. lube and mod. action. It was not stimulating and pleasurable as with other areas and no, I did not feel anything when standing up.

The interesting part was:
I usually IK as soon as I touch that. 1-2mins into in I realised I wasn't even IK'ing. I get that PONR feeling very quickly and surprisingly I didn't. After the 10mins I switched to a death grip dry and must say there was some delay in reaching PONR. Mines is usually super quick!

So yes, bias test due to my 20-25min hindi but surprisingly did not IK as quick as I thought. Needs more experimentation but something to keep an eye on and create a plan if you get consistent results.
 

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The TLDR version is that there is a spot on the glans around the peehole (mostly on the top side just below it) that, when stimulated, is extremely sensitive and uncomfortable to the touch. But, my experience was that if I desensitized this spot first for about 10 mins using circular motions with my palm, my ejaculatory response felt like it was essentially "shut off" afterwards when using my fleshlight. I could go forever using the most arousing porn/sexual thoughts/thrusting motions, whereas normally I will orgasm within a minute. So, maybe ballooning this spot continually will have a cumulative effect in gaining more control, and/or doing this prior to sex may have some use also.
 

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Instead of how you mentioned one hand holding the erected penis and the other palm rubbing around the pee hole, I used only one hand in total. My right hand held my penis and used my thumb to stimulate my pee hole area. (Kind of the way you use a lighter lol)

Went at this for 10mins with mod. lube and mod. action. It was not stimulating and pleasurable as with other areas and no, I did not feel anything when standing up.

The interesting part was:
I usually IK as soon as I touch that. 1-2mins into in I realised I wasn't even IK'ing. I get that PONR feeling very quickly and surprisingly I didn't. After the 10mins I switched to a death grip dry and must say there was some delay in reaching PONR. Mines is usually super quick!

So yes, bias test due to my 20-25min hindi but surprisingly did not IK as quick as I thought. Needs more experimentation but something to keep an eye on and create a plan if you get consistent results.

I understand what you mean about stimulating it like you're using a lighter. I tried that also and while it does still hit the area intensely, it's not quite the same. Try holding the head in one hand, and then compressing the area slightly with your palm and using a circular motion. Apply a bit of lube, but then wipe about half of it off and keep going. There's a certain lube consistency and hand motion that produces a very intense feeling - maybe I'm alone on this but that was my experience.

I also came across an article on another PE site while I was just randomly browsing and one of the passages states:

"The rest of the trick for prolonging ejaculation is to balloon your penis to an extreme so that the blood pressure inside the penile cylinders can block the nervous communication (via the urethral nerves) from the glans penis to the prostate and then to the T10-L2 nervous circuits. If you want to have sex for 1-2 hours, you have to learn to balloon your penis so that the reflection circuits of T10-L2 will be shut down."

I don't know how credible this article is, but just the fact that someone else is mentioning the urethral nerve and the T10-L2 nerves is interesting since I can literally feel energy traveling right to the base of my spine when stimulating this area.
 

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Sounds very interesting, I‘ll give it a try. Thanks for posting this!
 

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I'll be trying this tonight! Definitely sounds right as I was doing something I think in the shower the other day maybe edging I can't remember but I was erect and how the water hit that spot like it was super sensitive and almost hurt. I also think peesonally my head is the problem as well as it seems very sensitive during sex.
 

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Here is a novel idea while edging. Most people just grip the unit like you would a baseball bat and stroke away. Sometimes you stroke so that your hand goes over the glans. But most times, you just concentrate on the shaft. I edge a little differently. While I use the shaft stroke, I also incorporate a different grip. Hard to describe, but will try.

Now I LOVE blowjobs, but how do you replicate that feeling during edging. Yes, you can use lots of lube and go to town, but edging is all about the experience. Now, picture this, you have a bottle in front of you and you want to pick it up by the throat of the bottle. You would come down from the top with all fingers outreached so you can grab the bottle from the top by the neck. You come in from the top and engulf the bottle, you don't come in from the sides. Note that all fingers touched the bottle. Now imagine all fingers touching your unit in the same way. You get sensation all around the head and partially down the shaft. I explained it to my wife saying this is the closest I have found to getting a blowjob without you here. Incorporate this into your edging to help give you some stamina during your training. Guaranty that you will have a hard time not blowing your load.
 

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Here is a novel idea while edging. Most people just grip the unit like you would a baseball bat and stroke away. Sometimes you stroke so that your hand goes over the glans. But most times, you just concentrate on the shaft. I edge a little differently. While I use the shaft stroke, I also incorporate a different grip. Hard to describe, but will try.

Now I LOVE blowjobs, but how do you replicate that feeling during edging. Yes, you can use lots of lube and go to town, but edging is all about the experience. Now, picture this, you have a bottle in front of you and you want to pick it up by the throat of the bottle. You would come down from the top with all fingers outreached so you can grab the bottle from the top by the neck. You come in from the top and engulf the bottle, you don't come in from the sides. Note that all fingers touched the bottle. Now imagine all fingers touching your unit in the same way. You get sensation all around the head and partially down the shaft. I explained it to my wife saying this is the closest I have found to getting a blowjob without you here. Incorporate this into your edging to help give you some stamina during your training. Guaranty that you will have a hard time not blowing your load.

Yeah definitely. My edging sessions go for about 45 mins and I have probably 5 different techniques I use to stimulate various areas, both dry and with lube. I don't think just whacking away up and down like normal is the way to go. I think you really have to "train" your dick with a variety of challenging grips and motions and build up the physical and mental tolerance for stimulation so that when it comes to actual sex the sensations are not as overwhelming.
 

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I just tried this but I think I did it wrong:

tried stimulating the exact same area, I got the same feeling you are talking about but its so uncomfortable that I loose my erection. What are you doing about that?
I kegeled hard to get a full erection again quickly which lead to quick PONR..
 

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This is interesting. I'm gonna try that. For me it's definitely my frenulum and my glands that push me to the PONR. Actually, just as I'm falling over the edge I feel an energetic buildup right at the point you're describing. From that point tensions runs backwards and once it hits my pelvis I start ejaculating. (This all happens in a split second, but I'm able to observe it).
 

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While edging after my PE workout last night I experimented with every part of my penis and by far that same spot was the most sensitive like I could only go at it for a few seconds before it started to bother me. I now know what area to work on! Having sex with the wife tonight so I will be trying that before hand and see what happens
 

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I just tried this but I think I did it wrong:

tried stimulating the exact same area, I got the same feeling you are talking about but its so uncomfortable that I loose my erection. What are you doing about that?
I kegeled hard to get a full erection again quickly which lead to quick PONR..

Yes, going at this area continually causes my erection to gradually go down as well, though I do edge using VR porn now so this helps me stay aroused.

Last night what I did was go back and forth between this area and others - so, stimulate frenulum and other parts of the glans, then graze over that super sensitive spot a bit, then alternate back and forth.
 

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While edging after my PE workout last night I experimented with every part of my penis and by far that same spot was the most sensitive like I could only go at it for a few seconds before it started to bother me. I now know what area to work on! Having sex with the wife tonight so I will be trying that before hand and see what happens

Please report back and let us know how it goes.

Guys, also keep in mind that this is still just speculation on my part - stimulating this area is very uncomfortable and produces odd sensations unlike any other part of the penis, so proceed at your own risk. I have no idea what the longer term effects of ballooning this area are, though so far I haven't had any loss of EQ despite edging/ballooning fairly aggressively over the past 3 weeks and my dick feeling less sensitive overall. If anything it feels like my erections are even harder now. I got the idea from my own experimentation and from reading threads from a previous member (JamesMonroe) who described this as being a "hot spot" on the glans and who cured himself using ballooning/death grip.
 

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Hmm, glad you gave some more info about your experiences. Because I tried it in today's edging session and it was very uncomfortable, that spot. I will see if I can stimulate it like you said: by alternating between other spots on my penis.
 

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So I tried it again, this time without the kegeling. I started off rubbing the spot dry then after a while with some lube. Got the same intense feeling, this time a little more pleasurable than the last time, though still slighty uncomfortable.
It didnt really do anything for me I think. The frenulum really seems to be my biggest and maybe only problem. I even tried the fleshlight but I was far away from being in control. I will give this more tries but think I'll give more of my attention to my frenulum for now