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My Experience with IPR

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  • My Experience with IPR

    This is a quick report of my experience with an IPR-type routine that I had at the end of last year. Unfortunately, I feel that this particular routine has probably brought more questions than answers, which is due to my infrequent measuring -- I only measured twice, once before, once after. Thus, I recommend looking at the following with an open mind. I wouldn't suggest trying to imitate the following routine, rather look at it as a sample routine of how to combine IPR & Progressive Overload into a good routine with adequate rest.

    I attribute my measuring -- or lack of measuring that is -- to:
    • My measuring technique -- it takes me over an hour to measure (I measure at 3 separate times, at 5 different areas: BPEL, NBPEL, EGMS, EGB, EGG). In all actuality, my time is very limited, and the days that I should have measured were plagued with a big to-do list.
    • The fact that I didn't think I was gaining all that much. Funny as it may sound, I know my favorite organ better than anyone, and I surely didn't think the routine was work. This, combined with the above, led to infrequent measuring.


    Pre Conditioned Penis:
    I followed a (re)newbie routine back in March of this year; this lasted about two months; 5 on, 2 off. I experienced no gains, but the main goal was penile health, not size.
    Prior to the (re)newbie routine, I hadn't actively PEed in over a year. I had, however, PEed every once in a while for good penile health.
    I took a 2.5 month break before starting the routine outlined below.

    THE ROUTINE:
    1 on, 2 off; always.
    Warmed up for 5-10 minutes in the shower. I also typically did my stretches in the shower.
    ADS consisted of 1-2 PE weights for 2-3 hours, and I always used an ADS after every workout day.


    My routine was different from most IPR routines; partially by planning, partially by accident. The first phase -- the planned phase -- consisted of roughly 3 weeks. This could be considered a good routine all on it's own, whereas phase 2 -- the accident phase -- is a completely different IPR routine. Below is an approximate estimate of what I used for the first 3 weeks (phase 1):
    Day 1 - 10 minutes of jelqing, 5 minutes of stretching (For phase 1, I also ballooned for 1-2 hours after each workout day)
    Day 2 - ADS
    Day 3 - ADS
    Day 4 - 15 minutes of intense jelqing, 5 minutes of intense stretching (rotating stretches and side to side stretches -- stretching from L to R, L to R, holding each stretch for 2 seconds and switching to the other side), 60 JAI stretches.
    Day 5 - ADS
    Day 6 - ADS
    Day 7 - 20 minutes jelqing (10 minutes jelqing, 5 minutes intense C-jelq, 5 minutes jelq & bend), 10 minutes stretching (at least 5 minutes of BTC stretching), roughly 5 minutes of O-bends.
    Day 8 - ADS
    Day 9 - ADS
    Day 10 - 20 minutes jelqing (10 minutes jelqing, 5 minutes intense C-jelq, 5 minutes jelq & bend), 10 minutes stretching (BTC stretching, A stretching, and Double Stretching), 5 minutes Uli, 5 minutes O-bend
    Day 11 - ADS
    Day 12 - ADS
    Day 13 - 20 minutes jelqing (5 minutes jelqing, 5 minutes intense C-jelq, 5 minutes jelq & bend), 10 minutes stretching (BTC stretching, A stretching, and Double Stretching), 5 minutes Uli, 5 minutes slinkies, 5 minutes backwards Uli Jelq
    Day 14 - REST *At this point I noticed slight negative PI's -- too much progressive overload, I presume -- and I decided to give my penis 2 days of full rest between workout days from this day forward.*
    Day 15 - REST
    Day 16 - Same as Day 13.
    Day 17 - REST
    Day 18 - REST
    Day 19 - Same as Day 13.

    **At this point, I planned to continue with the routine for another 10 days; however, a series of unfortunate events took a toll on my day-to-day life, so I had to discontinue the routine.** I also didn't get a chance to measure at this point.

    As a result, I was forced to take a 3-4 week break.

    When I came back, I was looking into babbis's newbie routine, and decided to do some light PE for 3-4 weeks; again following a 1 day on, 2 days off schedule. This is where the accident part came into play; as in, I didn't plan it; rather, I saw an opportunity and went with it.

    The routine, phase 2
    -Started with 10 minutes jelqing, 5 minutes of stretching. Added 1 minute of jelqing to each workout day. I also added a little bit of stretching when I felt necessary. After about 10 workout days (roughly 1 month), I was at ~ 20 minutes jelqing, 8 minutes stretching.
    -2 days off consisted of complete rest
    -I again used an ADS for two hours (rotating between 1-2 PE weights) on my workout days
    -I didn't balloon after workouts

    THE RESULTS
    I decided to measure, finally, after "phase 2" ended. In total, over the roughly 2 month period, I gained:
    BPEL: .2"
    NBPEL: .3"
    EGMS: .05"
    EG Base: .25"
    EG Glans: .7"

    PRE-routine penis-shape: torpedo
    Post-routine penis-shape: base-ball bat; but not too asymmetrical, my penis is actual nearly uniform now.

    Obviously, the most prominent gain was in the glans. I was very pleased with this, and could definitely notice a result towards the end of phase 2. If I had to take an estimated guess, I would say that I gained just as much during phase 2 as phase 1. The girlfriend also clearly noticed the difference, with the per usual comments like: "your dick is getting huge," which she equally made during both phases (note: she didn't make any comments during the "break," so it would seem that she was my best measuring tool). I initially shrugged her comments off to her being more psychologically convinced than physically convinced; then I measured and realized my pre-judgement was wrong.

    Nevertheless, if one thing is for certain, it is that I am now convinced we should measure much more often -- chiefly to see if were growing. With a routine like IPR, one should at least notice some results within two weeks, and if not, then I would presume that something isn't going right: either too much intensity, not enough intensity, or not enough rest.


    THE DISCUSSION
    • As you can see, I took two different approaches. Phase 1 involved an intense progressive overload/IPR routine. Phase 2 involved a much slower, gradual, light routine. Both phases seemed to produce some results, or the girlfriends comments would seem to suggest so. Also, my glans size is noticeably much more bigger. Surprised I didn't realize this earlier on. Perhaps phase 2 caused the most glans size growth.
    • Nevertheless, I don't think this routine provided a whole lot of scientific basis, as we would want it to. Sorry guys, like I said before, I should have measured more often. Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda. Anyway, after this decon break I plan on trying out a light hanging IPR routine. I'm confident it will yield some length gains; length as always been easy for me. Girth, on the other hand, has been my Kryptonite. It goes without saying that I was very pleased to see a .7" increase in glans size.
    • Additional note, I believe phase 1 incorporated way too much progressive overload, and would not recommend it to anyone. Rather, through this experiment, and my subsequent research, if I could do it over again, I would have taken a much more lighter, systemic approach, as I did in phase 2.
    "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

  • #2
    What do ADS, IPR and BTC stretching stand for?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by HealthNFitn3ss View Post
      What do ADS, IPR and BTC stretching stand for?

      ADS=All Day Stretcher

      BTC= Between The Cheeks Stretch
      Starting stats 7/15/05 -FL 3.750"x FG 2.125", (BPEL 5.250" x EG 3.750")

      Current Stats: 4/16/10 (BPFL 6.500" x FG 5.625"), ( BPEL 7.825" x EG 6.375")

      Goal for 2011 BPEL 9.000" x EG 6.500"
      Some people see things, and say, "Why"
      I dream of things that never were, and say "Why Not"

      Dusty

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      • #4
        IPR = The type of routine. It's a theory on the body's healing process. IPR routine involve three phases:
        1) The actual routine phase
        2) The light cementing/extended phase
        3) The rest/decon phase
        "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

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        • #5
          Hello, what is the tensile force that you use for your ADS.

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          • #6
            eos:

            Welcome to the Gym! The ADS I used during this routine was PE Weights. But if you're using an extender, start with the basic tensile strength and gradually work up.
            "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

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            • #7
              EGMS, EGB, EGG, are these mid shaft, base and gland? and C jelq and O bend? does IPR even stand for anything?

              and can you link the 5 on 2 off and the other newbie routine(babbis': 1 on 2 off) you talked about?

              Also we should pre-condition for 2 months and rest for 2.5 months Isn't this too long? then start your routine 2(since you do not recommend routine 1 to anyone) for a month, then how long of a break do I need to take to start over the routine 2 again?
              newPEguy
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              Last edited by newPEguy; 01-19-2008, 02:55 PM.

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              • #8
                EGMS, EGB, EGG, are these mid shaft, base and gland? and C jelq and O bend?
                Correct

                C-Jelq and Side Jelq are pretty much the same thing.
                O-bend and flaccid bend are also pretty much the same thing.

                IPR is a theory of how the penis goes through different stages of PE (a man named "Xenolith" is the main proponent of the theory). According to the theory,
                I = Inflammations, it's the actual PE routine in which we inflict "damage" onto the penis
                P = Proliferation, it's when you do some type of cementing (either with an ADS for short-term or a light routine for a week before the next decon for long term)
                R = Remodeling, or rest

                You can find babbis' IPR routine here: https://www.pegym.com/forums/general....html#post7449

                Also we should pre-condition for 2 months and rest for 2.5 months Isn't this too long?
                2.5 months rest is a fairly decent amount if your penis is plateaued or if your penis is conditioned, or if you just want a break to "decondition" your penis and bring it back to the state it was prior to PE.

                In any regard, since your new you shouldn't be worrying about this stuff for at least 5 to 6 months. Focus on 1) getting your technique down 2) getting plenty of rest 3) gradually increasing your intensity
                "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

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                • #9
                  baloon = pump?
                  Where did 5 on 2 off originate from? Does it make more sense?

                  "I decided to measure, finally, after "phase 2" ended. In total, over the roughly 2 month period,"
                  Didn't you say phase 2 lasted for a month? Or did your phase 2 last for 2 months and thus the "roughly 2 months period"??

                  Also, I'm going to start a routine like your routine 2 except less intense, it's under general PE board, so I'm trying to understand every part, what does each of the following look like:
                  slinkies, double stretch, jelq and bend, BTC.

                  Thanks
                  newPEguy
                  Member
                  Last edited by newPEguy; 01-20-2008, 06:58 PM.

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                  • #10
                    newPEguy, those are advanced exercises. You don't need any of them yet.

                    Balloon = masturbating to right before the point of no return and stopping (i.e. edging).
                    "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

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