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  • NumberSix
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    I've been quietly debating my schedule of days on/off (again) and wondering, are my rest days helping me grow?

    Lately, I've extended my stretching from 8 minutes to 10-12 minutes, I've been jelqing slower and harder, and holding my squeezes a bit longer too. At the end of a session, I sometimes feel a little sore but it goes away quickly. By the time I'm doing my next session, I'm ready to go. Actually, I've been getting more morning wood lately and sometimes I've had to stop jelqing mid-routine because my EQ is too high.

    In other words, I'm doing longer, more intense PE exercises and my PI's seem fine, perhaps even better than usual. So if everything is looking good, why change a thing, right? Well, I've been reading through going411by7's log where he describes a high-volume, no-rest routine that worked quite well for him. A lot of it was stretches and jelqing, similar to my routine.

    Anyway, I've been thinking that I might just do the Bathmate and jelq over the weekend. I don't really have time for the full routine on the weekend but I figure this might keep my dick in a conditioned state.

    I'll think about it. With my PI's looking this good, it sorta feels like an experiment worth trying.

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  • NumberSix
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    Have I mentioned my no-caffeine experiment here? Well, I took about three weeks off from my morning coffee and any other caffeine. Not as bad as I thought but I didn't notice any particular benefit. I'm back to one (large) cup every morning now. Another things I haven't mentioned: I also microdose some mornings. But that's a topic for a different forum.

    So... the recent road trip altered my PE routine a bit. Thursday was the full bathmate routine that I usually do (20 min bathmate, 240 jelqs) but no morning routine. Friday was 15 min bathmate, maybe 120 jelqs. Saturday I did 15 min bathmate, just 60-ish jelqs. Sunday was full rest.

    Measurement Monday. I loosened up a little with 30 jelqs and a few seconds of holds but I things just didn't feel as loose as usual down there. Still...

    BPEL: 7.875"
    MSEG: 4.875"
    BEG: 5.375"

    BPEL was very close to 8". MSEG was almost 5" but a little less than the last couple weeks. This is the area that I think my tunica is tightest, so the slight loss makes sense. BEG was pretty much the same as usual.

    I've been waking up with more morning wood lately. Not sure why. My EQ during PE was so-so today. I'm kind of in a what-the-fuck-am-I-doing-with-my-life kind of mood right now. My marriage is confusing. I don't know what the fuck my wife wants. I'm working too much. I need more friends to get out of the house and hang with. I mean, I'm doing alright but holy shit I need a looong vacation from everything.

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  • NumberSix
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    The wife and I will be out of town for a few days so this week's routine won't be entirely standard. I may be able to get in the full routine tomorrow (Thursday). With Friday, I'm thinking I'll skip the morning routine but may still have time to do my Bathmate/jelq routine. Maybe I'll even do the same on Saturday. I don't know. Aside from PE, I've been working my ass off lately and I have a feeling that once I'm in vacation mode, I'll just say fuck it. No big deal either way.

    My marriage has continued to benefit from a lot of communication and discussion about where we're going as a couple, the lifestyle we want together, etc. I don't know for sure where it's all leading but it's a hellofa lot better than where we were. Also, although we still don't have a lot of PIV sex, my wife has been receptive to more oral sex. Last night she was tired but willing, so I went down on her for a good 45 minutes and then finished myself off onto her tits.

    My prior experience with her seems to indicate that if I just clear the pipes on a regular basis (i.e. ejaculate every 2-3 days perhaps), my pre-e may be much less of an issue. Maybe a non-issue even. Hopefully she's willing to help me out with that, but I may need to handle it myself at times so that when we do have sex, I'm ready for it. Also, I'm taking advantage of our improved communication to ask a lot more about what she likes. She's been hesitant or maybe unsure of how to answer in the past but it seems like she's willing to give me more guidance these days, which is great. She gets more of what she likes and I get to improve my skills in bed.

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  • NumberSix
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    Measurement Monday:

    BPEL: 7.875"
    MSEG: 5"
    BEG: 5.375"

    Yup, still holding at that 5" MSEG for now. I wouldn't call that measurement cemented yet. Sometimes it comes in 1/16" below, sometimes slightly above. Before I measure, I do about 30 jelqs and a quick hold just to loosen up. I cool down for a minute or so after that, get myself hard, and then measure.


    It was an interesting weekend. Communication with my wife has improved dramatically. Unexpectedly, she gave me a blowjob on Saturday morning, which was great but I hadn't ejaculated in over a week, so I didn't last long. We've been so comfortable talking to each other lately, I let her know that I was frustrated with my own lack of control. She asked if it wasn't maybe just because of the infrequency of sex and I acknowledged that it could be that but it was hard to know. So... she offered to help me rule that out and said she'd give me another blowjob that night.

    Well, she followed up and I had almost no issues. We took turns going down on each other for... an hour maybe? When we switched to PIV, I had to stop for a quick second towards the beginning but after that, I was good to go for quite a while. I've noticed that happens sometimes. Anyways, it was a great night and a huge confidence booster.


    On a completely different note, my thoughts on porn have evolved a bit. Speaking only for myself, of course, I'm still against watching porn videos/pics on a screen (at least for now). However, I remember one good thing about porn was that it expanded my knowledge of what was possible in sex (albeit sometimes in a sorta fucked up, unrealistic way) and provided new and interesting fantasies. Since I'm not watching porn I've been looking for other, perhaps healthier, ways to feed my sexual fantasies.

    I'm on Reddit and I've found that there are several subreddits where people write about sex. Sex they've had, sex they want, sex they fantasize about... a lot of good stuff. It definitely gets my imagination going. Additionally, my wife has some explicit girl-on-girl comics that are surprisingly well written and I've been borrowing those. I'm not jerking off while reading any of this stuff. It just fuels my libido and imagination. Good times.

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  • NumberSix
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    Seems like at the end of the week, I'm always about 1/8" to 1/4" larger in most dimensions. Then I have a couple rest days and return to baseline. Today (Friday) is the same as usual in that regard.

    Man, my marriage has been going through some weird shit lately. But at least we're communicating and we're being honest about where we are. Anywho...

    This week (at least the last half of it), I started focusing on jelqing slower and harder. My dick feels much more exhausted afterwards. Mildly sore -- not in a bad way but in the way that muscles feel good but sore after a workout. It seems like we're all different with regards to the volume and intensity of exercises that spur growth. I'm not sure if this will work for me, but I feel like my flaccid stays bigger, longer after I'm done exercising which I take as a positive sign.

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  • NumberSix
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    Originally posted by BiggerDB View Post
    Seeing that 5" girth mark has to feel good!!! Keep it up!

    One thing I've noticed in my relationship, when I open up and confront an issue it always gives me a higher level of confidence in myself versus when I avoid the issue.
    Yeah, for sure on both counts. The measurement was actually a tad over 5" but I like to be conservative rather than aspirational. Definitely felt good to see some movement on the measuring tape though.

    I've learned with my wife that she doesn't yet have the communication skills to open up on her own. That can be frustrating for me because it requires constant vigilance and effort on my part to keep those lines of communication open, but that's what's required of me and if I don't make the effort, she closes herself off and the relationship suffers. I'm glad I got her talking again. She hasn't stopped sharing her feelings for the last five days, which is great. I like it when she's emotional and not holding anything back.

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  • BiggerDB
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    Seeing that 5" girth mark has to feel good!!! Keep it up!

    One thing I've noticed in my relationship, when I open up and confront an issue it always gives me a higher level of confidence in myself versus when I avoid the issue.

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  • NumberSix
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    It's Measurement Monday...

    BPEL: 7.875"
    MSEG: 5"
    BEG: 5.375"

    That's an extra 1/8" in girth compared to last week, possibly due to above average EQ this morning. Time will tell if that measurement holds up but it's great to see a solid 5" on the tape.

    I've noticed there's a strong correlation between my EQ and the health of my relationship with my wife. No reason to go into the details here but our communication hasn't been good for several months. Over the last few weeks, I realized we needed to talk and it wasn't going to happen unless I got the ball rolling. I put it off at first and my mental state and EQ suffered. Over the last several days, we've had some good conversations and sure enough, my EQ is back.

    I made the embarrassing mistake this morning of blowing my load right in the middle of my routine. I wasn't feeling particularly sensitive or reactive... it just happened. Annoying. Sorta powered through the rest of the jelqs after that.

    I'm continuing to use the garland pose and butterfly pose (I think that's what it's called) to stretch out my PF. I tend to do a light RK while in these positions and I think it helps. I've definitely been more focused on stretches, RK's and eliminating IK's. I've been purposefully avoiding kegels for this reason. I think kegels are an important exercise but I've heard that it can be helpful not to do them when you're working to eliminate IK's.

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  • NumberSix
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    Hi Starting_Somewhere, thanks for dropping by. I'd be curious to know what it looks like for you when you do the start-stop method. When I've tried start-stop, it usually goes like this for me: 1) Build arousal, 2) Approach the PONR, 3) Experience IK's near the PONR, 4) Back off just in time, usually holding a kegel or continuing to experience IK's, 5) Repeat.

    I never really found that this helped me last longer, probably because I'm just following my usual patterns of arousal and experiencing the same IK's. However, start-stop did teach me about my arousal patterns and I suppose it did give me more willpower to hold back at the PONR.

    I used to think that I just had a really sensitive part of my dick, around the area of the frenulum. Stimulation below the head, especially in that spot, would be my quickest path to a hard-on and eventually the PONR. Honestly, there were times when I wondered if I could desensitize that area somehow.

    But I started to notice that my state of body/mind, specifically the amount of anxiety/stress/tension I was holding had a huge impact on how sensitive things were down there. I noticed that if I smoked some weed before sex, I'd usually last longer. I'd like to last without having to smoke up, but my takeaway was that if I could calm down my nervous system, I could smooth out and extend the process of arousal.

    You asked specifically about the IK's and RK's. I find that as long as I can fight back the urge to IK, I can continue to stimulate myself without reaching the PONR. I'm not waiting until I'm near the PONR to do a big RK or anything, I'm really just trying to maintain a light, relaxed RK throughout the edging practice. It's a simple idea but difficult to execute. I find that I'm constantly working against the natural impulse to kegel. My hope is that over time, I can retrain my body to relax.

    So for now, I'm trying to stretch my pelvic floor, consciously let go of stress and anxiety (meditation helps), and practice RK's not just when I edge but throughout the day. Oh, and I also sit on a tennis ball to stretch those pelvic floor muscles when I can. Hope this info helps.


    It's Friday so I measured after my morning routine. Same as last Friday... BPEL: 8", MSEG: 5.125", BEG: 5.375".

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  • Starting_Somewhere
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    Hi number six I just caught up on your posts. Right now on edging I am pretty much just doing start stop. Is there supposed to be a way to be able to keep going without having to stop even when that usual stopping point is reached? I guess I'm wondering if that part you were saying about doing the RK instead of the IK is how to do that. It sounds interesting because right now I just keep start stopping and I don't know hopefully that in itself helps to desensitize something enough but maybe there is more to it?

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  • NumberSix
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    Measurement Monday. Spoiler... same as last week, which is fine.

    BPEL: 7.875"
    MSEG: 4.875"
    BEG: 5.25"

    Pressing the ruler against my pubic bone and giving it a hard kegel gets me to 8", but no need to stretch the truth. I'm not there quite yet.

    My wife and I have gone to a few spas in our city, but last evening we tried one where it's clothing optional. We kept our swimsuits on this time but man, I haven't seen that many (attractive) naked women at once since I quit porn. It was pretty fun and I'd totally go back and try it without the swimsuit. Honestly, I love being naked.

    Unfortunately that didn't translate into any interest in sex or even much cuddling that night. Ugh. Just shoot me.

    I've been doing the Garland Pose thing when I think of it. I woke up early this morning so I spent a little time after my routine edging and really trying to understand what's going on with my level of arousal. Here's what I took away: my involuntary kegels (IKs) are kind of my worst enemy. Stimulation + IK = PONR. Stimulation + reverse kegel (RK) = a sustainable level of arousal. Right now it's really difficult to hold off an IK with an RK when I'm aroused, but I'm hoping to practice enough to make that possible.

    I figure it's a process of rewiring my brain, which could take time. I definitely grew up rushing it and trying not to get caught. Still, it's pretty gratifying when I'm occasionally able to overcome an IK with an RK and then ride that wave of calm pleasure.

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  • NumberSix
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    It's Friday and I figured I'd take another measurement post-routine this morning. BPEL: 8", MSEG: 5.125", BEG: 5.375". That's about 1/8" more girth than when I measured last Friday, which is possibly because I went M-F without a break and I'm back to 20 minute Bathmate sessions. I suspect Monday's measurement won't reflect anything like 1/8" increase, but what this does indicate is that the increased volume I'm doing results in more (temporary) expansion.

    I've been wanting to get into Hindi Squats but I've seen some confusion over Hindi/Hindu Squats. After looking around, I saw somebody describe how they were doing it, and somebody else commented that it was also called the Garland Pose and was good as a pelvic floor stretch. The Garland Pose makes sense to me and it's easy to find information about it, so I'm going to work that into my daily routine somehow.

    In other news, my libido has been up this week and my dick has new life. Here's the story behind that...

    I go bowling most Tuesdays with my wife and a friend or two. The bartender at the alley, probably in her 40's, has started to recognize me. We chat, she mixes me a strong drink, I tip her well. Half the time I visit the bar my wife is with me but this week I was there alone. I'm normally pretty oblivious to women's signals but goddamn... she kept telling me how nice it was to see me, complimenting me, lots of eye contact, and when she handed me my change, she made sure to slide her hand against mine.

    I'm sure this is normal for some guys and it's not like a woman has never flirted with me before, but it felt pretty goddamn good to get that kind of attention. My wife likes to know when something like this happens, so I told her. It's funny... that night she felt the need to explain that she wanted to give me a blowjob but it was unrelated to the whole bartender thing. I ate her out after that, then again the next morning.

    Since then, my confidence is up and I've been getting random hard-ons all week. Feels good.

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  • NumberSix
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    Now that the morning routine is only 45 minutes, I'm thinking I might try a 5/2 schedule. Basically, M-F full routine, weekend full rest. I'm a creature of habit so we'll see if I even remember to do it tomorrow.

    Having reduced the morning routine and added reps to the Bathmate routine, I've spread things out more. I really like the idea of staggering the exercises throughout the day. I'd like to experiment with doing a few jelqing sets before bed but I'm not sure how to pull it off. My wife and I usually hang out in the evenings and share the bathroom before bed. I suppose I could just be mature about it and say, "I need some privacy for about ten minutes." I doubt she'd really care.

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  • NumberSix
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    It's Measurement Monday. This week's measurement is...

    BPEL: 7.875"
    MSEG: 4.875"
    BEG: 5.25"

    I'm very happy with the MSEG this week. It's only a minor difference from last week but it represents a somewhat measurable gain in girth for me, which is what I'm after. Good way to start the week.

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  • NumberSix
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    I can get the morning routine done in about 45 minutes if I keep a good pace. My measurements after completing the routine this (Friday) morning were 8" BPEL, 5.25" BEG, 5" MSEG. Those would be some nice round numbers to cement. I feel like my next milestone is getting my MSEG to a consistent 5".

    On a different note, here's my current tea recipe:

    • 2 bags of decaf green tea
    • 1/2 tsp Siberian Ginseng 4:1 extract
    • 1 tsp ginger powder
    • 1/2 tsp fenugreek powder
    • A dollop of this lemon/ginger/honey tea mix stuff I found at Costco. Makes it taste better.


    That's kind of a 3G's tea. The other G's (gingko biloba and ginger) I take as pills. I'm not sure it's of particular interest to anybody, but these are the vitamins I take:
    • Aged garlic extract 600mg
    • Gingko biloba 120mg
    • Multivitamin (Kirkland brand)
    • Fish oil 2400mg
    • Sunflower lecithin 2400mg
    • Quercetin 800mg with bromelain 165mg
    • Zinc 30mg
    • Vitamin D 5000IU
    • Super B-complex with folic acid and vitamin C
    • L-Arginine 1000mg


    I'm sorta winging it here but this is what works for me. I'm not a doctor or a nutritionist and this is definitely not medical advice. I enjoy experimenting with this stuff, so I'm sure this list will change over time. On most weekdays, I also make myself a smoothie with fruit, greens, broccoli sprouts, protein powder, collagen powder and creatine powder.

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