Update 1: I'm so happy I'm able to edit my first post here (not possible on thunder)
I will always update this post to give you guys the most direct way to my new findings and learnings.
Despite of what some experienced hanging users suggest, I will follow Kyrpa's ideas (He is on thunder, a brilliant guy) and take advantage of both rest days AND decondition breaks.
My protocol is the same as below BUT:
-Thursday and sunday rest days with ZERO PE.
- after 2-3 months of working (Pe), I will take 2-3 months off to decondition. This is crucial to avoid plateaus.
Update 2:
My current routine: 60 min total.
a. 20 mins without heat to delastify the penis @2.5kg (elastic limit)
b. hang 30 mins with IR heat @3.5kg. ( plastic zone)
c. In the end, 10 mins hanging cold to cooldown @4.2kg . (to counter the contraction of the tissue during cooldown)
IR lamp is 250w Philips lamp from Amazon.
To be continued ;-).
Update 3 from 04.08.2021:
The complete period consisting of hanging and pumping is called "P1". I finished the hanging part with a BPFSL of 19.7cm and a gain therefore of 2.1cm. This is more than amazing for a hard gainer. Now I try to transform the BPFSL to BPEL by pumping.
1) same schedule as before: Mo + thursday off, the rest of the week I pump
2) 3-4 sets @ 10-12 mins and max 6 Hg. I always restrict the length in the tube to focus on girth instead of length.
By doing this, the penis is less constricted in girth expansion. This is necessary because the transformation of BPFSL to BPEL is basically girth work. So although I want to gain length with this method, I need to pump in a length restricted way to hopefully transform about 66% of the BPFSL to BPEL.
This is going till 04.15.2021, so another 11 days. Then, I will do 2 months decon.
P2 starts on 06.15.2021, accordingly.
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Hey guys!
I'm also on thunder, so if you may recognize my name, yes I'm the same guy.
The Phallosan was completely useless for me. Although I went above and beyond in terms of research, effort, time under tension, zero gains in 3.5 months.
Now I'm hanging. started on dec 1.
I use the LG Hanger exactly like Dr Ric described. Will write a very comprehensive analysis after I have gained 2 cm.
Because it seems useless to me to write about hypotheticals etc when it is not proven in practice.
my stats (all natural since zero gains lol)
BPEL:16,7 cm ~ 6,57 in
NBPEL: 15cm ~ 5,9 in
flaccid (NBPFL): Maximum turtled: 10cm ~ 3.94 in
Girth: head: 13.4cm middle: 14cm base: 14cm
First big goal: 1 inch of length via hanging only. Then, 1.1 inches to get to 7 inches NBPEL and from there I'm relaxed . Because that is already very big IMO. Still, will shoot for 8 inches NBPEL and 6-6.2 inches of girth.
I will always update this post to give you guys the most direct way to my new findings and learnings.
Despite of what some experienced hanging users suggest, I will follow Kyrpa's ideas (He is on thunder, a brilliant guy) and take advantage of both rest days AND decondition breaks.
My protocol is the same as below BUT:
-Thursday and sunday rest days with ZERO PE.
- after 2-3 months of working (Pe), I will take 2-3 months off to decondition. This is crucial to avoid plateaus.
Update 2:
My current routine: 60 min total.
a. 20 mins without heat to delastify the penis @2.5kg (elastic limit)
b. hang 30 mins with IR heat @3.5kg. ( plastic zone)
c. In the end, 10 mins hanging cold to cooldown @4.2kg . (to counter the contraction of the tissue during cooldown)
IR lamp is 250w Philips lamp from Amazon.
To be continued ;-).
Update 3 from 04.08.2021:
The complete period consisting of hanging and pumping is called "P1". I finished the hanging part with a BPFSL of 19.7cm and a gain therefore of 2.1cm. This is more than amazing for a hard gainer. Now I try to transform the BPFSL to BPEL by pumping.
1) same schedule as before: Mo + thursday off, the rest of the week I pump
2) 3-4 sets @ 10-12 mins and max 6 Hg. I always restrict the length in the tube to focus on girth instead of length.
By doing this, the penis is less constricted in girth expansion. This is necessary because the transformation of BPFSL to BPEL is basically girth work. So although I want to gain length with this method, I need to pump in a length restricted way to hopefully transform about 66% of the BPFSL to BPEL.
This is going till 04.15.2021, so another 11 days. Then, I will do 2 months decon.
P2 starts on 06.15.2021, accordingly.
__________________
Hey guys!
I'm also on thunder, so if you may recognize my name, yes I'm the same guy.
The Phallosan was completely useless for me. Although I went above and beyond in terms of research, effort, time under tension, zero gains in 3.5 months.
Now I'm hanging. started on dec 1.
I use the LG Hanger exactly like Dr Ric described. Will write a very comprehensive analysis after I have gained 2 cm.
Because it seems useless to me to write about hypotheticals etc when it is not proven in practice.
my stats (all natural since zero gains lol)
BPEL:16,7 cm ~ 6,57 in
NBPEL: 15cm ~ 5,9 in
flaccid (NBPFL): Maximum turtled: 10cm ~ 3.94 in
Girth: head: 13.4cm middle: 14cm base: 14cm
First big goal: 1 inch of length via hanging only. Then, 1.1 inches to get to 7 inches NBPEL and from there I'm relaxed . Because that is already very big IMO. Still, will shoot for 8 inches NBPEL and 6-6.2 inches of girth.
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