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thepowerpole PreE90 - Progress log

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  • thepowerpole PreE90 - Progress log

    Currently 25, I will write down my problems as well what I think are reasons for them:

    PreE - bad masturbation habits, unable to handle sexual stimuli and overactive PF
    EQ problem - due to overactive and tight PF and also I have performance anxiety
    Arousal control - trained myself to cum on hot scenes during porn watching (now doggy is impossible, few thrusts)
    Shrinkage - probably imbalanced PF are limiting my EQ hence shrinkage in EL (I am not going to sweat anymore about this, just accept the current state and work with that)

    Current state:
    • Masturbation with no lube: even when flaccid and starting to masturbate I can feel the IK spasms. I can last pretty much a long time though I feel the most pleasure from tensing up the pelvic floor and I tense up my quads and feet when I want to finish quicker. I pay no attention to breathing, but it isn't deep and I hold my breath sometimes.
    • Masturbating with fleshlight: First time that I tried I couldn't last 2 minutes and I had to slow down and even stop because of IK. After few days I wasn't in the mood but still masturbated and I could last quite a bit maybe 3-5 minutes, so I turned on some porn and the IK were back as soon as I saw busty girl getting fucked and I came after a few thrusts. So arousal control is problem for me.
    • Blowjob: My ex gave me one of the best ones but they were short 3-4 minutes. I still had IK but pleasure from getting sucked is equal or greater from pelvic floor tensing. And the view was something (I said that I have visual arousal problems ).
    • PIV intercourse: Me on top, there I have some control and can last 3-4 minutes but slow thrusting and stopping often. When I speed up the IK are unbearable and have to ejaculate, but if I intentionally hold hard kegel I can thrust for 20-30s full speed and then I am finished. Her on top, I could last 2-3 minutes but from time to time I just feel that I can last longer in this one, maybe my IK stopped and pleasure was only coming from the shaft and glans. Sometimes I would go soft in this one, maybe because she positioned my dick to be almost parallel to me so she could target G spot and slide over me with her clit. Doggy style, just the few thrusts.


    My plan for week 1:
    1. Yoga stretches (this one in the morning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntP8eQY74Cw, and this one in the evening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yx0_PK0Q-4, and after each one I will finish with Lajin stretch for 3 minutes)
    2. Belly breathing (3x a day for 10 minutes, just to relax and get into a habit of belly breathing)
    3. Reverse kegels (5x a day for 10 minutes, I will focus first on connecting breathing and RK and making them firm but gentle and not so much on the reps)
    4. tennis ball massage (2x a day for 3 minutes, take it easy with this cause of prostate inflammation I have until I have check up at urologist)
    5. Edge (6x a week, one day rest, 20 minutes sessions and ejaculate on every third session)
    6. Track progress through excel table


    Goal for week 1 is just to get into the habit of doing this things, read stickies few times over and listen how my body reacts.

    Ultimate goal: Have sex for 10 minutes.

    Any help and advice appreciated!

    EDIT : Porn is off limits.

    Any changes to the week will be colored orange.
    thepowerpole
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    Last edited by thepowerpole; 05-31-2020, 05:35 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
      Hoped you would be here since you helped WillGetBetter.

      First day done. Getting dizzy from all the belly breathing.


      Guess wanting to orgasm after edging isn't going to be as much of a problem since I am trying to suppress the IK with RK and I don't get much of enjoyment cause it's slow even if it is 20 minutes long. In the first place I shouldn't be chasing PONR, just trying to eliminate IK. Maintaining the erections can pose a problem cause juggling RK, belly breathing and arousal thoughts can be hard. I hope that avoiding to orgasm and building the pleasure from day to day will solve this problem, if not I am going to prolong no orgasm till 6th session, so once every week.
      IK are impossible to fight off for now, I try to belly breathe and RK but it isn't working. I am having them when moving STU up, down and even when just being still inside the STU.


      Not sure if I am hitting the right spot with tennis ball massages but I am massaging the whole area. I've changed tennis ball massages to 3x a day, they just felt good. I don't know how WillGetBetter managed to work or drive and massage with a tennis ball, I look like I am trying to copulate with the tennis ball.


      During yoga I try to belly breath as much as I can and relax into stretches. Lajin stretch is hard so I am leaving it for the end, also during Lajin it progressively gets harder to hold the stretch as if I am stiffening and not loosening. Maybe it's just morning yoga make me more flexible and more prepared for the stretch.


      In the fifth and last RK of the day I did some hard kegels into RK with belly breathing.


      Usually when I am finishing up with peeing should I do kegel or not?
      Since small muscle groups work better with high speed and high repetition like abs, shouldn't I be doing more of the short burst of RK? I am sticking currently to this 10 minutes, but I am thinking maybe changing that in the future.

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      • #4
        4th day currently and I am resting from everything. Didn't do all as planned but I don't think my PF could take it all.

        • PF, RK and belly breathing

        Feel that my PF is sore from doing RK. During the day it either feels tight or it has spasms, but I can make it looser with slight lower abs contraction and making it expand. Maybe I am overdoing it?
        While I am doing RK I have to slightly contract the lower abs to expand BC. Guess it is too early to isolate so this is the way to go.
        While doing belly breathing I make my belly rise but I don't feel it expands my PF at all. If I want to expand it then I have to do again contract the lower abs, but then this isn't belly breathing but RK. I guess just do the belly breathing to develop a habit of deeper breathing.
        • Yoga stretches

        Didn't skip this once and proud of that. While doing them I also belly breathe and try to RK, so I am again contracting a little lower abs. Don't know should I be doing this or just stretching and belly breathing? I can really expand BC in baby pose and cow pose.
        Cow pose is great cause it stretches my abs and feels great. Cobra pose is too hard on my back so I am doing baby cobra pose.
        • Tennis ball massage

        Didn't skip this one either. At first I was massaging too low and it caused me some discomfort. Using my hands to make me hover over the ball when massaging cause it feels better and it is easier on the PF.
        • EDGING

        Can't suppress IK for now, breathing is all over the place. This one is still hard, must read on this more. On third day I came at 8', I was playing to close to the PONR.
        • BAD MASTURBATION HABITS

        I masturbated a bit last night after the last session of RK in which I do transition from K to RK, and I noticed that I kegel on purpose to make my dick bigger. Back when I was doing PE and masturbated afterwards I used to kegel to make it look bigger and even when receiving hand job from a gf I would kegel. I think now this lead me down the path of PreE.
        thepowerpole
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        Last edited by thepowerpole; 06-03-2020, 02:52 PM.

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        • #5
          Once your PF is balanced and relaxed, that "bigger" size you get from doing kegels, will become the norm, while relaxed. Imagine that!

          Relax bro, you're on the right path.

          You never slow down, you never grow old!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jay1983 View Post
            Once your PF is balanced and relaxed, that "bigger" size you get from doing kegels, will become the norm, while relaxed. Imagine that!

            Relax bro, you're on the right path.
            I have noticed this as well. As I work on getting my PF to relax I seem to be developing a better hang and I'm liking it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jay1983 View Post
              Once your PF is balanced and relaxed, that "bigger" size you get from doing kegels, will become the norm, while relaxed. Imagine that!

              Relax bro, you're on the right path.
              Yeah, can't wait.

              Thanks for the support!

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              • #8
                First week done.

                • PF, RK and Belly breathing


                Pelvic floor feels sometimes tense and I can feel a few IK when walking around or getting up from sitting position. But sometimes I don't feel any tension.
                RK are getting easier, I do them in supine position and I can RK good in standing position, even when walking if I feel that PF is relaxed.When I do them I breathe in, let my belly rise and hold for a few seconds RK and then relax. Sometimes I can only make my BC expand after I expanded my belly and then made my lower abs contract. I can't isolate BC muscle, I always feel expanding PC muscle and I always have to contract lower abs. I can isolate PC muscle very well with reverse back kegel but also have to have lower abs contracted but not as much.
                Belly breathing I do this to try to do RK without lower abs contracting, if it isn't working I just belly breathe. I do them also in supine position.
                • Yoga stretches and tennis ball


                Also getting easier but I am very tight in all areas. I am trying to breathe deeply and into my PF so basically I RK. Lajin are getting easier and I no longer get the feeling that I am getting tighter while doing them. Deep squat feels nice. In the second video for my yoga where woman just places the tennis ball on her perineum feels a lot nicer then when I am massaging my PF with tennis ball so I might change that, just sit on tennis ball. On fifth day of the week I forgot to do Lajin stretch for 3' in the evening.


                • Edging (read about 7th day)


                The breathing is something I must improve on, I forget that I have to mind that. On 5th day I had trouble doing RK, the IK were too much and I can feel that my BC is clenched and hard. But now I don't always feel IK when getting erection, rise in the erection is steadier. On 6th day same thing, but I noticed that my fleshlight is leaking air even though I screwed the top part which should've made vacuum and made the sensations even more intense. So I taped the upper part of my FL and it felt great. Lost the sensation at 14', maybe because too much lube and started rubbing my glans and under it for the next 6'.

                On 7th day I tossed the FL in warm water and because I leave it there for 10 minutes I decided to do 10 minutes of RK. First few RK weren't effective and my pelvic floor felt tight, I couldn't make it expand but after that RK were good. After 7 minutes I got up roll FL in water cause it floats and doesn't warm up equally if I don't. On my way to FL I could RK while standing up and PF felt relaxed. I got back in supine position to do 3 minutes more and PF now felt tight and I couldn't get RK to work first few tries but after that RK were good and PF relaxed. Taped again the top of the FL, and started edging on my back, could fight off the IK in the beginning but afterwards they overwhelmed me and I coming close to PONR.
                I decided to stand up and try doggy. I arched my lower back and felt that I can do hard RK so I started thrusting and I thrust at 50-60% speed for 3-4 minutes. I stopped to rest and started to go 70-80% speed for 2-3 minutes. While doing this I felt contraction in lower abs and hard RK. Now I couldn't do the kegel, like involuntary RK, it was too strong. When I stopped again I lost erection and couldn't get it back up again so I rubbed my glans and under my head. I wanted to finish cause it was my 3rd day so I played some porn of busty lady fucked in doggy position with big tits and erection was back so I continued in doggy position and because of my arousal I came after 40 seconds.
                Erection weren't hardest (8/10) in the doggy position, maybe because of that hard RK. The top of the FL was taped so good that the vacuum made my foreskin roll up when I thrust so I had to roll it back and hold it, but I could endure sensations. Maybe I should introduce now K exercises more? When I K now I can't hold it steady clench, it feels like my BC is pulsating while K. Maybe my PF is overactive thus tired but also weak?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by thepowerpole View Post
                  When I K now I can't hold it steady clench, it feels like my BC is pulsating while K. Maybe my PF is overactive thus tired but also weak?
                  I have this exact same issue. I have wondered as well if my BC muscle is weak and maybe that is part of the problem. I hope one of the more knowledgeable members chimes in here.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by hafthor View Post
                    I have this exact same issue. I have wondered as well if my BC muscle is weak and maybe that is part of the problem. I hope one of the more knowledgeable members chimes in here.
                    Yeah, hope answer this. Good luck with battling with PreE!

                    Week 2 plan:
                    1. Yoga stretches (this one in the morning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntP8eQY74Cw, and this one in the evening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yx0_PK0Q-4, and after each one I will finish with Lajin stretch for 3 minutes)
                    2. Belly breathing (3x a day for 10 minutes)
                    3. Reverse kegels (5x a day for 10 minutes)
                    4. tennis ball massage (3x a day for 3 minutes)
                    5. Edge (6x a week, one day rest, 20 minutes sessions and ejaculate on every third session)
                    6. Track progress through excel table


                    So basically same as week 1 but now goal is to get better at exercises. Quantity is there, going for quality now. There isn't much room for more exercises cause I spend daily 3 hours on doing these exercises.

                    I used porn 2 times previous week and ejaculated on my rest days (4th and 8th) so this is something I gotta stop doing.

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                    • #11
                      Damn, today was a bad day.

                      I did morning yoga, 2x RK for 10 minutes and 1x belly breathing for 10 minutes. Edged trying to nullify the IK with bursts of RK to see how it goes, but I think that doesn't work for me, it stops my breathing cause I contract my abs. I came after 4 minutes. IK during the whole way. Lost will to do exercises.

                      Confused on how can I RK and breathe out, all of this RK I've been doing is breathe in belly, contract abs and then push out the BC muscle. So if I edge and try triangle breathing I can't RK when I breathe out. Can one RK when breathing out?

                      Should my edging be like this?
                      -breathe in belly
                      -contract abs
                      -expand BC muscle
                      -slide down the FL

                      My weekly plan needs some work:
                      -include hindi squats, wide stance hindi squats, hindi wall squat
                      -start doing only yoga poses that are listed in PreE90 program, it will massively cut down time I spend on yoga
                      -I always do RK in supine position, hopefully adding hindi squats will make my pelvic floor looser and I will be able to do RK in sitting and standing position

                      Watched porn twice today, during watching I feel that my BC has so much tension that it clenches up and it hurts my PF.

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                      • #12
                        Ok your pelvic floor is still an obvious source of problem and yes hindi squat is a good idea .

                        I find when I start stretching a tense muscle it can nark and twitch which may be what is happening . I think rk will become easier as your pf loosens

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by thepowerpole View Post
                          Watched porn twice today, during watching I feel that my BC has so much tension that it clenches up and it hurts my PF.
                          Porn is the devil for PreE.
                          The very same thing is happening to me when I watch porn so I try to avoid it at all costs. Somehow my attention goes all in the porn and indeed PF clenches like crazy... This never happens in normal edging session with no porn for example.
                          What is also interesting that this tension is there for quite some time afterwards and it takes time to recover.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
                            Ok your pelvic floor is still an obvious source of problem and yes hindi squat is a good idea .

                            I find when I start stretching a tense muscle it can nark and twitch which may be what is happening . I think rk will become easier as your pf loosens
                            Yeah, just got a little bit frustrated. Continued today as I planned.

                            Did yoga poses listed in the PreE90 program instead following along the video.
                            Started doing 4x20 hindi squats, hindi wall squat and deep hindi squat hold. When squatting low I notice that there is "butt wink", basically I can keep my back straight when squatting until some point where I have to round up my back to go lower in the squat. Same goes for deep hindi squat hold where I have to round up my back, my heels are on the floor but my balance is off and it feels I will fall on my back.

                            My lower back is a mess, will look to strengthen and stretch.
                            Glutes also need some strengthening.
                            I have rounded shoulders.

                            Originally posted by Jimmy_quick View Post
                            Porn is the devil for PreE.
                            The very same thing is happening to me when I watch porn so I try to avoid it at all costs. Somehow my attention goes all in the porn and indeed PF clenches like crazy... This never happens in normal edging session with no porn for example.
                            What is also interesting that this tension is there for quite some time afterwards and it takes time to recover.
                            Same for me, I notice when I pee afterwards the stream is slow and I can't RK to push it out faster.

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                            • #15
                              Today should've been the rest day but I did some exercises before I figured that out.

                              Done some RK while walking after morning yoga and tennis ball massage, was able too. Inhaled, clenched my lower abs and I was able to hold RK even when breathing out. Couple of hours later I could only expand PC muscle when standing, couldn't move the "air bubble" upwards and lost my ability to hold it while breathing out. Did some tennis ball massages and after that felt a little bit of pain when touching my perineum so I will take a break tomorrow.

                              It seems that I have very tight PF and it reverts back quite quickly, like it's fighting the stretching. I will implement hindi squats 4x20, low squat hold 1-2' as well as hindi wall squat for 1-2' in my routine to help loosen up PF.

                              The "butt wink" while squatting originates from tight hamstrings according to Athlean-X. Found some follow along video for stretching and strengthening of the lower back that incorporates glutes exercises. So the plan is to do in the evening after yoga either stretching hamstring or lower back and glutes exercises.

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