Average Penis Size Studies - BPEL?

[Cya at 8]

I emailed the research institute that conducted the survey for Durex.

EDIT: I emailed the owner of Durex and asked about the survey's instructions. I was under the impression that LIG was a research institute.

 

[Padawan787]

I emailed the research institute that conducted the survey for Durex.

EDIT: I emailed the owner of Durex and asked about the survey's instructions. I was under the impression that LIG was a research institute.

 

[Cya at 8]

Yeah no response as of yet. I'll hit the right key sooner or later.

 

[ThinJohnny]

Most of them seem to be NBPEL. The one I can think of off the top of my head that was BPEL is the German one - Schneider. Wessels was NBPEL, but they also measured each guy's fat pad. One of the Middle Eastern ones(either Jordan or Iran) was bone pressed, but they measured flaccid, stretched length.

I personally think the Ansell's Lifestyles(Cancun) study was NBPEL, but they never published their methodology. That's an email that I would like to write, but I've been too lazy. I'm not sure you'd get a correct answer anyway, because you'd never know who was answering you, and how hard they tried to get the correct answer.

I'm pretty sure the instructions for the Kinsey study were to do an NBPEL measurement, but based on the results, I think a significant number of guys cheated at least a little bit.

I'm curious about whether the French study(Bondil) was NBPEL or BPEL. They measured stretched, not erect, and the mean was crazy high.

 

[Cya at 8]

Most of them seem to be NBPEL. The one I can think of off the top of my head that was BPEL is the German one - Schneider. Wessels was NBPEL, but they also measured each guy's fat pad. One of the Middle Eastern ones(either Jordan or Iran) was bone pressed, but they measured flaccid, stretched length.

I personally think the Ansell's Lifestyles(Cancun) study was NBPEL, but they never published their methodology. That's an email that I would like to write, but I've been too lazy. I'm not sure you'd get a correct answer anyway, because you'd never know who was answering you, and how hard they tried to get the correct answer.

I'm pretty sure the instructions for the Kinsey study were to do an NBPEL measurement, but based on the results, I think a significant number of guys cheated at least a little bit.

I'm curious about whether the French study(Bondil) was NBPEL or BPEL. They measured stretched, not erect, and the mean was crazy high.

I would agree with your post here.

 

[donjelqer76]

The lifestyles study appears to have been NBPEL:
Lifestyle Condoms Penis Size Survey | Whats The Average Penis Size?

 

[Cya at 8]

The lifestyles study appears to have been NBPEL:
Lifestyle Condoms Penis Size Survey | Whats The Average Penis Size?

Which would make perfect sense for a condom company.

 

[ColtAR-15]

The lifestyles study appears to have been NBPEL:
Lifestyle Condoms Penis Size Survey | Whats The Average Penis Size?

Their methodology is something I have pointed out numerous times but there are many here that still insisted it was BP. I always wished somehow that they were BP and some of the surveys do seem to be, but I have my doubts whether they accurately represent the majority men. It looks like my original thoughts were correct. I am spot on average according to the lifestyles survey.

 

[ThomasJohnThomas]

From a medical standpoint, the only thing that would make any sense is bpel. They are using medical staff for the survey, they are recording the actual penis size for medical records, fat pad does not come into that. Another reason is that it is the most accurate method for stable results, when measuring a large number of people, using a number of medical staff.
btw. Wikipedia lists a number of reliable sources on the subject. Maby different studies have used different methods of measuring.

Erect length

Several scientific studies have been performed on the erect length of the adult penis. Studies which have relied on self-measurement, including those from Internet surveys, consistently reported a higher average length than those which used medical or scientific methods to obtain measurements.[SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][11][/SUP]
The following staff-measured studies are each composed of different subgroups of the human population (i.e. specific age range and/or race; selection of those with sexual medical concerns or self-selection) which could cause a sample bias.[SUP][11][/SUP][SUP][12][/SUP]

• In a study of eighty healthy males published in the September 1996 Journal of Urology an average erect penis length of 12.9 cm (5.1 in) was measured.[SUP][5][/SUP] The purpose of the study was to “provide guidelines of penile length and circumference to assist in counseling patients considering penile augmentation.” Erection was pharmacologically induced in 80 physically normal American men (varying ethnicity, average age 54). It was concluded: “Neither patient age nor size of the flaccid penis accurately predicted erectile length.”
• A study published in the December 2000 International Journal of Impotence Research found that average erect penis length in 50 Jewish Caucasian males was 13.6 cm (5.4 in) (measured by staff).[SUP][6][/SUP] Quote: "The aim of this prospective study was to identify clinical and engineering parameters of the flaccid penis for prediction of penile size during erection." Erection was pharmacologically induced in 50 Jewish Caucasian patients who had been evaluated for erectile dysfunction (average age 47±14y). Patients with penis abnormalities or whose ED could be attributed to more than one psychological origin were omitted from the study.
• A review published in the 2007 issue of BJU International showed the average erect penis length to be 14–16 cm (5.5–6.3 in) and girth to be 12–13 cm (4.7–5.1 in). The paper compared results of twelve studies conducted on different populations in several countries. Various methods of measurements were included in the review.[SUP][9][/SUP]
• An Italian study of about 3,300 men concluded that stretched length was measured on average to about 5 inches (13 cm). In addition, a correlation between weight and height and penis length was also found. However, this was done on only 500 men and has very little correlation value.[SUP][13][/SUP]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_penis_size

 

[ThinJohnny]

From a medical standpoint, the only thing that would make any sense is bpel. They are using medical staff for the survey, they are recording the actual penis size for medical records, fat pad does not come into that.

I totally agree. The funny thing is that the supposed experts in a subject are not always the real experts. If you want to know the correct way to measure a penis, you should ask the people who are obsessed with measuring penises, because they've spent more time thinking about it than anyone else. The people who have spent the most time thinking about measuring penises are us.

The professors in Urology departments do many studies. Penis size is just one of them. I'm sure they're very smart people, but they aren't experts in measuring penises. They just happened to do a study of penis size as part of their research. If they knew what they were doing, they would have consulted us first before designing their experiments

It amazes me how many studies measure NBPEL. If I were designing a study, I would definitely measure NBPEL and BPEL. You're going through all the trouble of getting all the volunteers. You might as well measure both. The stretched length thing kills me, too. Who cares what the average stretched length is. I know the studies have shown that stretched length is more strongly correlated with erect length than flaccid length is, but seriously, who cares what the average stretched length is. They might as well just saved their money and effort.

OK, rant over.

 

[thenewdude]

Well, the NBPEL can change on weight and can be due to having just a genetically thicker or thinner fat pad.
I agree, who cares about stretched length because it is still flaccid nevertheless. I favor bpel because the fat pad
does hid full length during erectile state.

 

[ThinJohnny]

Yeah, NBPEL is definitely not consistent enough to use as any kind of progress indicator. I'd be interested in the average NBPEL, though, just out of curiosity.

 

[thenewdude]

I think it would vary a lot due to weight, or genetics. I have a fat pad of .2-.25 which is not much (my wife sometimes complains when it rubs) which is genetical. So it varies.

 

[Lance85]

Yeah me too! I've been killing myself on some comments my fiance made a couple years ago comparing me to an ex. She doesn't even have sex ... and has only seen 3 and apparently they were all above average enough to have her seriously question my endowment.

I realized tonight that I'm not 6". All this time I've been measuring wrong. I'm actually 7! I'm actually above average! Been trying PE for 1 month so maybe I've grown a bit but def no where near an inch or anything. Doesn't change my insecurities regarding my fiance but really helping me right now ... problem is when someone asks if "your penis" is going to be "big enough for them" it implies they know what they want.

 

[BigO]

If asked that question, is your penis going to be big enough next time say I dont know, never tried to plug a cave with it.

 

[Lance85]

If asked that question, is your penis going to be big enough next time say I dont know, never tried to plug a cave with it.

LOL. Would be easy but I can barely get a finger in her ... so that aint gonna work! : )

How have your results been BigO?

I notice the stretching has definitely increased my flacid length. Still a grower not a shower (which I could care less about) but it's improving. Erect wise I don't know if it's bigger much but definitely thicker and harder on days I do the exercises which is a great confidence boost. Everytime we mess around on a day I've jelqued she mentions how she likes how hard it is and seems more into it. Hate to admit it but bigger seems more 'exciting'.

 

[Pegasus]

Yeah me too! I've been killing myself on some comments my fiance made a couple years ago comparing me to an ex. She doesn't even have sex ... and has only seen 3 and apparently they were all above average enough to have her seriously question my endowment.

I realized tonight that I'm not 6". All this time I've been measuring wrong. I'm actually 7! I'm actually above average! Been trying PE for 1 month so maybe I've grown a bit but def no where near an inch or anything. Doesn't change my insecurities regarding my fiance but really helping me right now ... problem is when someone asks if "your penis" is going to be "big enough for them" it implies they know what they want.

Three all over 7" bpel unlikely. This is a big red flag some sort of control thing perhaps.

 

[Stumpy]

This is a big red flag some sort of control thing perhaps.

Given the statistical improbability of this, you just have to wonder why a number of women seem to make these claims.

 

[donjelqer76]

Three all over 7" bpel unlikely. This is a big red flag some sort of control thing perhaps.

+1 to this

While its definitely possible, the odds of any individual penis being 7" BPEL or larger is about 1 in 17. The odds that she has only seen 3 and they were all 7" BPEL or longer would be about 1 in 4913 - again, definitely possible but highly unlikely

 

[arkham]

+1 to this

While its definitely possible, the odds of any individual penis being 7" BPEL or larger is about 1 in 17. The odds that she has only seen 3 and they were all 7" BPEL or longer would be about 1 in 4913 - again, definitely possible but highly unlikely

Dont forget that he is also 7'' so its 1 in 83521