The Official Hard Flaccid Recovery Thread
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imac
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You should do pelvic floor exercises. Read this. https://www.pegym.com/forums/penile...-medical-study-kegels-vs-ed-venous-leaks.html
CaptainJohnson
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The circulation issues I discussed are primarily concerning your pelvic floor, not the penis. The penis can experience some odd blood flow as a result, but nothing that can harm it. No necrosis will occur. Your penis will remain the same and unchanged, but your pelvic muscles may experience slight atrophy.
After relieving the pelvic tension, HF will disappear. HF is mostly a symptom of pelvic problems. After the pelvic tension is gone, it is a good idea to exercise your pelvic floor to regain your former strength. At first, you should just focus on activity that uses those muscles, such as sports, running, and sex. Keep doing pelvic stretches and massages to keep your muscles relaxed. Watch for PI's:
If you experience pelvic/inguinal tension, pelvic/inguinal or leg fatigue, pelvic/inguinal discomfort, pelvic/inguinal pain, limited pelvic joint movement, trouble urinating, and/or trouble defecating take a break from pelvic exercise and put your focus back on muscle relaxation techniques.
As you continue to get better, adding a kegel/reverse kegel exercise regiment might be wise.
Great ways to lower pelvic tension:
1) Physiotherapy
2) Yoga
3) Posture exercises
4) Massages
5) Stretches
6) Warm baths
7) Alpha-blocker medication
8) Prostatitis supplements
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What you should do is find another forum to hijack threads and troll on bomber44/HFdog/return/Mipaul/Mipaul12/Running and stop trying to come back here. For the last two years you have been doing nothing to fix your problem and hoping for an internet cure. Every time you come back we will ban you so please save evry one the trouble.
CaptainJohnson, thanks alot again. Do you think HF will "cure" by itself if not treated after a while? Do i have to get medical help or can i just live with the symptoms if i want to?
CaptainJohnson
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It won't cure itself unless it was the result of an injury, in which case it may partially dissipate, but not completely. First thing you should do is get your prostate checked, and a sample of prostatic fluid checked. This will rule out infection, which would often require antibiotic treatment.
I seriously suggest seeing a physical therapist to get better, as there is no guarantee you will improve on your own, and the support of a well trained PT is damn worth it. Also review your options for CPPS treatment with your doctor. Do your stretches, posture exercises, and self-massages every day. Try and get a real massage or yoga in during the week if you can.
I don't think its a good idea to leave HF the way it is. The longer you wait, the harder it will be to get rid of. Also, the longer you wait, the higher the risk of further injury to your inguinal and pelvic regions.
It's good to hear that this "hard flaccid" sh*t may not be permanent. But 8 months is a LONG ASS TIME.
imac
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Hey guys, I've been recommending a technique recently to guys with premature ejaculation caused by pelvic tension and stress and I've been getting good feedback and the thought just struck me that it might also be helpful to guys with hard flaccid because it's all about relaxing the pelvic floor muscles.
So if any of you guys with hard flaccid want to give it a try and see if it makes a difference to you I'd be interested in your feedback.
Here it is. https://www.pegym.com/forums/premat...egel-breathing-meditative-reverse-kegels.html
So if any of you guys with hard flaccid want to give it a try and see if it makes a difference to you I'd be interested in your feedback.
Here it is. https://www.pegym.com/forums/premat...egel-breathing-meditative-reverse-kegels.html
CaptainJohnson
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I can second this, as I have done it for a long while myself. It is incredibly helpful, and also worth doing during edging. I don't do it during sex, as I have other things on my mind at the time
, but if you suffer from PreE I imagine it could be very helpful.I urge others who suffer from HF to try this out for 10 minutes and include it in their daily routine.
How is everyone? I had an MRI of my lower back, bit of a disc buldge, nothing to shout about, no nerve impingement. I often hear the PT and trigger point therapy route discussed. I have to say im simply envious of those who it works for. The stretching and internal PT only gave me a bad flare in terms of pain...firm flacid, no change. Im happy for those it does work for, and dont dispute it, as hey you know your own cock.
Has anybody considered an injury or impairment to the pudendal artery? Such as a partial blockage or narrowing? The reason I say this is because when we lie down the flow miraculousy improves hmmm? (pain in the perineum anyone?) Could possibly exlain why selective alpha blockers work so well. Its important to explain to doctors that this improves when lying down but deteriorates when standing. This sounds like more of a functional problem than a structural problem. Theres always this partial segmental priapism I heard someone mention aswell. I think these more venous vascular related conditions sound a bit warmer. Options such as stenting and vasodilation drugs (similar action but not exactly the same as how alphas work) may help alot if this was the case. However it may not be, and it is important to have investigations assessing bloodflow while the subject is in a standing position and hopefully also a lying position. It is clearly the standing position that would be most interesting. A lack of bloodflow could cause atrophy and discomfort or pain.
Has anybody considered an injury or impairment to the pudendal artery? Such as a partial blockage or narrowing? The reason I say this is because when we lie down the flow miraculousy improves hmmm? (pain in the perineum anyone?) Could possibly exlain why selective alpha blockers work so well. Its important to explain to doctors that this improves when lying down but deteriorates when standing. This sounds like more of a functional problem than a structural problem. Theres always this partial segmental priapism I heard someone mention aswell. I think these more venous vascular related conditions sound a bit warmer. Options such as stenting and vasodilation drugs (similar action but not exactly the same as how alphas work) may help alot if this was the case. However it may not be, and it is important to have investigations assessing bloodflow while the subject is in a standing position and hopefully also a lying position. It is clearly the standing position that would be most interesting. A lack of bloodflow could cause atrophy and discomfort or pain.
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ukhealin, a partial priapism could be ruled out really easily by any urologist. I'm sure that in most of the cases it is a mascular problem. While laying down muscles relax. While massaging the penis it immediatly gets spongy. This is how muscles behave, not blood flow.
CaptainJohnson
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It is partially neurological, and the pudendal nerve is involved, but this is mostly due to stress that already exists within the pelvis. The very fact that your symptoms worsened during internal trigger point treatment might very well confirm this. Most everyone experiences a worsening of symptoms during internal TPT, especially those with uniquely bad cases, but this is followed by a long-term improvement. It is possible that you either did not have enough internal TPT, or that you are simply not benefiting from it. For me, internal TPT did less than external, and internal was hard to utilize. I only ever had internal TPT on days when I was also using my Alfuzosin, which I gotta say was just incredibly useful in conjunction with physiotherapy. It was prescribed by my prostatitis specialist in cream form, which I injected into my rectum with a syringe. Sounds fun, huh?
In any case, those who do not have CPPS, prostatitis, or hard flaccid will generally not experience pain or similar symptoms to ours during internal TPT.
In any case, those who do not have CPPS, prostatitis, or hard flaccid will generally not experience pain or similar symptoms to ours during internal TPT.
Well I'm taking a break from pumping as I had a negative retraction though I didn't use very much lube so who knows? Tho quick question I'm heard a lot of different theory's on this
Should all trigger points be removed before the stretching phase?
Should all trigger points be removed before the stretching phase?
CaptainJohnson
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If not all, most. Stretching with active trigger points can still be healthy overall, but it won't help solve the problem. I suggest dealing with external trigger points and giving yourself a light massage before doing stretches. Don't worry, you don't need to do internal every time you want to stretch
Also, its important to gauge how you feel. Some days, you might be feeling pretty relaxed, and go straight into stretches. Other days, you might be tight and have to spend 20 minutes on your trigger points prior to stretching. Sometimes maybe you only need 5 minutes of trigger point work. If you have the time to invest in it every day, your best option is doing all relaxation techniques and stretches, but as you start to recover it will become less necessary.
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I use the Bathmate pretty consistently. About a week and a half ago I was pumping and my dick was expanding inside the pump like it should, then my dickhead had this weird "deflating" feeling. It lasted only a split second and I thought nothing of it. When I took the bathmate off, the swolen look that I normally get after pumping went away shortly after. Thats when I started to worry. I think I have "hard flaccid" and am scared as sh*t. There is also a numbness but i think its getting a little better. I can still get hard but its not the same. I also used to get hard a lot throughout the day but not anymore, and hardly get "morning wood". I'm only 21. If my dick is gonna be like this for the rest of my life then my life is pretty much over. This is by far the worst situation I've ever gotten myself into. And is it safe to use the pump again after I heal?? ANY advice would be appreciated. Please help.
Thanks captain and baller I'll say this yeah it sucks I've been threw hell this past year and a half though the old saying it could be worse
CaptainJohnson
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Device injuries are not my specialty. It is possible that HF could have occurred, but so could a number of other things. I would check with a urologist as soon as possible to make sure no other forms of damage have occurred, and I would also drop by the Penis Devices forum and do a search for similar injuries.
After you see a urologist, come back and let us know where you are at and we will help if we can.
Well good pt session today though as I was on a long walk today I noticed that my penis and parts of my legs were ice cold like there wasn't blood flow going to them? What's that all about and is the penis cold because of the ischiocavernosus
I strongly believe I have this problem, and have had it for the last 5 months now as these symptoms everyone talks about it is right up my alley.
I've never really had a problem with anything about my penis, I've had sex, had girlfriends however with the last one I had a huge pregnancy scare and at 22 years old it really freaked me out, especially since the girl was crazy and I had no desire to be with her. Since then I've had the "hard flaccid" feeling every day, no sex drive and honestly just a weird feeling penis.
Doctors thought it was an STD and kept prescribing me antibiotics, which did absolutely nothing and I've gone back to my urologist 5-6 times now and he says "everything is normal" which really makes me want to hit him in the face. I had a siadic nerve and possibly a bulging disc problem from high school football along with two seperated shoulders (It is hard to get out of bed some days) I also just tore my ACL, MCL, and meniscus last year playing basketball and am finally getting surgery on it in the next few weeks. Everyone thinks I am just crazy and it frustrates me to no end because they obviously have no clue what I am going through. I've changed my diet around, quit smoking weed and chewing tobacco and still no changes. I work out regularly which may be an issue, but if I don't work out or play sports competitively I literally feel like I have no self-worth.
I'm a full-time college student with a 30 hr a week job and am constantly stressed. I was diagnosed with severe anxiety and depression in the past but everyone has a tough life, feeling sorry for myself is something I refuse to do. I am a small 5-6, 150 with the heart of a lion and I honestly think no one can beat me at anything if I put my mind to it, I stress myself out with school to no end because it is the only thing in life that doesn't come easy to me which makes me work even harder and harder at it.
I don't know, just trying to give you guys a bit of a background on myself, I have read through all 232 pages of this topic and it actually comforted me seeing that other people have this problem. Part of me thinks this is "the end of my life" then the fiery part of me thinks "you can beat this, DONT GIVE UP!" I saw that some supplements might work and I am thinking about picking some up at the store today. My dad said he would give me some xanax (he has the same anxiety) to see if that works but I hate taking any kind of pills but I will give it a shot.
The lower back pain and pelvic pain made me think kidney stones but the CT scan came back negative. My moods are always random, I wake up depressed as hell somedays and go to sleep more happier than I have ever been. My major changes every single year and it feels like school will never be done. Look I know this isnt the "end of the world" but I want this fixed and I am willing to make life changes for it to happen. I am sure you guys know exactly what I am talking about, hell I don't even want to start plugging chicks again I just want my penis to feel normal again, I feel like life would be so much better if I could get this fixed.
So basically anyone have any supplements they could suggest for me to pick up at the store?
I've never really had a problem with anything about my penis, I've had sex, had girlfriends however with the last one I had a huge pregnancy scare and at 22 years old it really freaked me out, especially since the girl was crazy and I had no desire to be with her. Since then I've had the "hard flaccid" feeling every day, no sex drive and honestly just a weird feeling penis.
Doctors thought it was an STD and kept prescribing me antibiotics, which did absolutely nothing and I've gone back to my urologist 5-6 times now and he says "everything is normal" which really makes me want to hit him in the face. I had a siadic nerve and possibly a bulging disc problem from high school football along with two seperated shoulders (It is hard to get out of bed some days) I also just tore my ACL, MCL, and meniscus last year playing basketball and am finally getting surgery on it in the next few weeks. Everyone thinks I am just crazy and it frustrates me to no end because they obviously have no clue what I am going through. I've changed my diet around, quit smoking weed and chewing tobacco and still no changes. I work out regularly which may be an issue, but if I don't work out or play sports competitively I literally feel like I have no self-worth.
I'm a full-time college student with a 30 hr a week job and am constantly stressed. I was diagnosed with severe anxiety and depression in the past but everyone has a tough life, feeling sorry for myself is something I refuse to do. I am a small 5-6, 150 with the heart of a lion and I honestly think no one can beat me at anything if I put my mind to it, I stress myself out with school to no end because it is the only thing in life that doesn't come easy to me which makes me work even harder and harder at it.
I don't know, just trying to give you guys a bit of a background on myself, I have read through all 232 pages of this topic and it actually comforted me seeing that other people have this problem. Part of me thinks this is "the end of my life" then the fiery part of me thinks "you can beat this, DONT GIVE UP!" I saw that some supplements might work and I am thinking about picking some up at the store today. My dad said he would give me some xanax (he has the same anxiety) to see if that works but I hate taking any kind of pills but I will give it a shot.
The lower back pain and pelvic pain made me think kidney stones but the CT scan came back negative. My moods are always random, I wake up depressed as hell somedays and go to sleep more happier than I have ever been. My major changes every single year and it feels like school will never be done. Look I know this isnt the "end of the world" but I want this fixed and I am willing to make life changes for it to happen. I am sure you guys know exactly what I am talking about, hell I don't even want to start plugging chicks again I just want my penis to feel normal again, I feel like life would be so much better if I could get this fixed.
So basically anyone have any supplements they could suggest for me to pick up at the store?
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