Do You need to eat more calories for PE to work?

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Do you need to eat more calories for PE to work? If not then how can you explain the body increasing the size of a body part even if its not by a lot??
 

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i understand that it isn't a muscle like the way you need protein and stuff to build muscles but if your entire body penis included is a certain mass than how can it grow in any way if you arent eating extra calories???
 

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RBI is right. If you are taking care of the rest of your body, you won't have to eat differently for PE. Take a multivitamin if it makes you feel better, those are good to fill in dietary gaps anyway. The actual change in mass your penis gets from PE is much less than what you experience lifting weights, and takes longer.
 

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No it has nothing to do with caloric intake. Yes there is a smooth muscle in the penis, but it's purpose is to relax allowing the it to fill with blood to get an erection. There is another factor that part of enlarging your penis is stretching the suspensitory ligaments this helps expose some of your inner penis. The tunica is a tough fibrous tissue, it's purpose is for the smooth muscle to expand against creating a hard erection. To enlarge the tunica you are creating small microscopic damage which heals itself in a larger state than before. This happens at such a slow rate over time that the calories that may be required for healing are insignificant. Taking in more calories will only make you gain weight.
 

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There is another factor that part of enlarging your penis is stretching the suspensitory ligaments this helps expose some of your inner penis. The tunica is a tough fibrous tissue, it's purpose is for the smooth muscle to expand against creating a hard erection. To enlarge the tunica you are creating small microscopic damage which heals itself in a larger state than before.

Cav, I am not questioning this I am only asking a question I don't know the answer to: does the tunica tear and repair like skeletal muscle? I thought (but not very hard on it!!!) we stretched the tunica to give the smooth muscle cells more room to expand. If it only gets thicker wouldn't that defeat the purpose of stretching the bastard???!!!
 

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There is tear and repair, and also stretching of the cells with no tearing. If a cell gets stretched too big it will divide and instead of just replicating it will become two or more cells. Cells of different kinds try to stay certain sizes for functionality purposes. So Mitosis is also at work. Not just tear and repair. Each type of tissue needs to be considered and looked at as a system that works together.
The skeletal muscle analogies would only apply to certain cells in the penis. The tunica, ligaments, and facia need to be looked at as the types of cells they are.
 

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Unless you're malnourished or are subjecting yourself to a catabolic diet then you shouldn't need any extra protein to assist your PE training efforts. Any needs would likely be so small as to be insignificant.

Now, if you're combining your PE with other forms of [new] training, then you may need to adjust your diet to allow for performance/recuperation/growth- but that would be for your other efforts and not PE.
 

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I guess my question is...well there is debate about whether or not you can lose weight and gain muscle at the same time because one requires a deficit and one a surplus so i'm wondering if you are running the deficit...i mean things arent growing on your body at that point so i just thought possibly your penis wouldn't either.....
 

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I guess my question is...well there is debate about whether or not you can lose weight and gain muscle at the same time because one requires a deficit and one a surplus so i'm wondering if you are running the deficit...i mean things arent growing on your body at that point so i just thought possibly your penis wouldn't either.....

That can be done- especially in the beginning of your training career. Now, once you get to the more advanced levels of training, focusing on one aspect over the other will yield accelerated results of that aspect. More on this:

You can accelerate the process of adding muscle by "bulking up" (consuming a significantly larger amount of calories than necessary for maintenance), but you shouldn't allow that to get so out of control that you'll have to spend a very long time shedding excess bodyfat once you decide to get "cut".

Unless you're at the competitive level and training for a bodybuilding contest, you don't have necessarily to sacrifice one for the other. One can continue to gain muscle while losing bodyfat, though there's a point to where that starts becoming difficult once you get into the very low bodyfat percentages. This is assuming that you're not using any anabolics to assist your training.

You'll also benefit from cycling your training. You can create training phases where you're working for strength, then size, then fat loss, and then a down period where you can allow your body to rest and/or focus on different forms of exercise that allow you to rest from heavy weight training while allowing you to maintain conditioning. This also helps you to break up any training monotony and will help to prevent mental burn out.
 

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Cav, I am not questioning this I am only asking a question I don't know the answer to: does the tunica tear and repair like skeletal muscle? I thought (but not very hard on it!!!) we stretched the tunica to give the smooth muscle cells more room to expand. If it only gets thicker wouldn't that defeat the purpose of stretching the bastard???!!!

This is the way I visualize what is happening. Think of a scar on someones body. If That is the result of new cells filling in the gap. If you had stitches put in when the cut occurred the scar would be fairly thin, without stitches it is much wider. This is not thickening of the skin, it is new skin being created. During PE these tears are created perpendicular to the forces being applied, so the new cells filling in the gap are adding to the length of the direction of the forces applied. So for instance if you are working on length the new cells that are created to help heal the damage are perpendicular adding to the length.
 

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If you have to ask if you should bulk or cut first.... you're still fat.

Diet down to at least 12% bodyfat and then start increasing calories slightly. Though odds are you're probably going to obsess over building muscle so much that you constantly over eat and spend years being chubby. Not picking on you it's just what I've seen in newbie bodybuilders over the years.

Try this plan out.
Getting Lean In 3 Months |IronGangsta - The Truth Will Set Us Free
 

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i understand that it isn't a muscle like the way you need protein and stuff to build muscles but if your entire body penis included is a certain mass than how can it grow in any way if you arent eating extra calories???
No. It is not the same as muscle and the requirements are not the same. Stop asking and start reading.

The don't have as much food in the Dominican Republic as we do in the US of A........wait for it!
 

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Yes, for a muscle to growth you need more calories, your penis doesn't just grow from imagination, luck, hard work, etc. You need food for anything to grow, without an excess of calories but an increase in the amount of energy spent, you will shrink(Applies to any body part).

But good question, I never thought of this. Will definitely up my calories a little bit for my PE goals.

No, this is not true with smooth muscle. You guys need to actually reed specifically about smooth muscle. It does not work like your quads and biceps.

You guys can all eat as much as you want but it won't grow your penis no matter what you do.
 

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Getting lean by iron dips hit is maybe one of the worst programs I have read in a long time.

Granted, you can drop weight by reducing calories. That's called starving. You will lose muscle. High protein diets with carb cutting and cardiovascular are much more effective and healthy and will retain lean muscle.

I agree with your post though.
 

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Getting lean by iron dips hit is maybe one of the worst programs I have read in a long time.

Granted, you can drop weight by reducing calories. That's called starving. You will lose muscle. High protein diets with carb cutting and cardiovascular are much more effective and healthy and will retain lean muscle.

I agree with your post though.
Bullshit. I ran that program two times and lost 40lbs of fat ZERO muscle. This was over 6 months without any supplements and protein ranging from 60g to 120g a day. I measured with BIA scale and BIA monitor daily and never lost anything. I started working a physical job at a hospital during the second cycle too.

Check your facts. High protein, carb cutting, HIIT = Bodybuilding bullshit. It's all comes down to calories in calories out, consistency in training, and maintaining or increases in strength while dieting. You can eat whatever you like and still lose weight so long as you keep calories in check.
 

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Bullshit. I ran that program two times and lost 40lbs of fat ZERO muscle. This was over 6 months without any supplements and protein ranging from 60g to 120g a day. I measured with BIA scale and BIA monitor daily and never lost anything. I started working a physical job at a hospital during the second cycle too.

Check your facts. High protein, carb cutting, HIIT = Bodybuilding bullshit. It's all comes down to calories in calories out, consistency in training, and maintaining or increases in strength while dieting. You can eat whatever you like and still lose weight so long as you keep calories in check.

Bio Electrical Impedance is the least accurate out of all the measuring techniques.

The Pitfalls of Bodyfat ?Measurement?, Part 4: Bioelectrical Impedance (BIA) » Weightology Weekly
 

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It doesn't need to be that accurate to show change in body composition over six months.