Ben Greenfield and Kyle Kingsbury on Smart Drugs, Nootropics, Microdosing With Psychedelics, Enhancing Deep Sleep & Much More

Listen to this podcast on the BENGREENFIELDFITNESS with Ben Greenfield and Kyle Kingsbury.
“Recently, I had the chance to sit down at Onnit with my friend and the host of the Human Optimization Hour podcast, Kyle Kingsbury. During our discussion, we delve into a host of topics including the latest and greatest on smart drugs, nootropics, and psychedelic micro-dosing, deep sleep enhancement, rites of passage and much more!”

In my conversation with Kyle, you’ll discover:

-What Ben does to optimize his sleep…6:42

-Optimizing psychedelics for performance…24:37

  • Ketamine (recalling previous traumatic experiences)
    • Intranasal ketamine
    • Ben’s wife had difficulty with learning
    • Ben can recall his childhood in vivid detail; connects with his boys
  • Microdose psilocybin
    • Ben doesn’t like to lose control of his cognitive function
    • Use during nature experiences: hiking, hunting, etc.
  • Lysergi
    • Amplifies dopamine levels (beware of overdosing)
  • If legality is an issue:

-Ben’s thoughts on the efficacy of Restore for healing leaky gut…37:00

  • Seals leaky gut based on its interaction with the zonulin protein
  • Mitigates issues brought on by glyphosate exposure
  • Ben and his family use it regularly

-Ben’s preferred sources for colostrum…40:20

-Rites of passage and thoughts on how we’re raising our boys in modern American culture…44:00

-And much more…

Click here for the full written transcript of this podcast episode.

This was originally published in BENGREENFIELDFITNESS by Ben Greenfield. This is a repost. See the original post here.


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Ben Greenfield is recognized as one of the top fitness, triathlon, nutrition and metabolism experts in the United States. He is CEO of The Superhuman Coach Network, which teaches cutting edge techniques to enhance the body and mind. Ben was voted in 2008 as the Personal Trainer of the Year by the National Strength and Conditioning Association (NSCA) and recognized as the top 100 Most Influential People in Health. His book ‘Get-Fit Guy’s Guide to Achieving Your Dream Body – A Workout Plan for Your Unique Shape’ was published in 2012. His other book, a 540-page atlas of human performance, nutrition and lifestyle – ‘Beyond Training: Mastering Endurance, Health and Life,’ is a New York Times Bestseller. Ben Greenfield is not an official expert of He was selected by TheBioHacker as an official expert of the biohacking community, and some of his work is curated here. Visit his official website at, or buy his book, ‘Beyond Training.'

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